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Saga Where would Star Wars characters be on a real-world Political spectrum?

Discussion in 'Star Wars Saga In-Depth' started by DarthStarkiller144, Feb 22, 2024.

  1. DarthStarkiller144

    DarthStarkiller144 Jedi Padawan star 1

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    if there was a political compass in Star Wars, what would be the major camps determined by in-universe issues only?
    As you might know George Lucas also likes to insert Politics into Star Wars, he was critical of Ronald Reagan, Nixon, and Bush and supported Hillary Clinton and Obama in the past. The prequels were also a direct criticism on how “Democracies aren’t overthrown, they’re given away” (His words not mine). So what political ideologies Star Wars characters will represent in your opinion?

    For example, Dooku is a racist aristocrat but also brands himself as an Anti-Corruption guy. Anakin being a slave as a young child and later a Law and Order guy gives the vibes of a Neocon hawk in the style of Bush/Reaganite type Republican, while Obi-Wan is probably a Centrist or an old-school Democrat. Palpatine (His public image, not his true self) can go either way honestly, while Bail Organa gives the vibes of a Clinton-Democrat. Luke can be a Teddy-type progressive or a New-Deal type dem, Han is a Libertarian for sure, Luke in "The New Republic" era gives the vibes of a more Conservative Democrat, while Jacen Solo can be a Neocon hawk as well. Thrawn can go either way as well but I think he will probably be a Conservative in the style of Rumsfeld

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  2. Watcherwithin

    Watcherwithin Jedi Master star 4

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    I had an idea to make a meme but never bothered to.

    centrism in real life: I don’t care about all this I just want to grill.

    centrism in SW: *montage of thousands of years of galactic conquest from the time of Uueg Tching to the First Order
     
  3. Power of the Dark Side

    Power of the Dark Side Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    I'd put Obi-Wan down as a mainstream Republican to be honest. Seems content with the status quo, respects those in authority such as the Jedi Council, generally pragmatic. Anakin comes across as a Tea Party/MAGA type, see especially his remarks about democracy in Ep II. Palpatine is essentially a fascist. Qui-Gon would probably vote Green Party.
     
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  4. Watcherwithin

    Watcherwithin Jedi Master star 4

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    Qui-Gon seemed close to Valorum who’s supposed to be an analogue of Clinton. One wonders if he was on any flights to mysterious private planets
     
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  5. Darth Vectivus

    Darth Vectivus Jedi Knight star 4

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    Many Sith characters thats for sure
     
  6. DarthStarkiller144

    DarthStarkiller144 Jedi Padawan star 1

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    I think Anakin (Pre Dark Side) can be a Neo-Con hawk as well who becomes a Nationalist
     
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  7. Sarge

    Sarge 5x Wacky Wednesday winner star 10 VIP - Game Winner

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    Good thing there's no possibility this will get ugly. o_O
     
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  8. Clone8looper

    Clone8looper Jedi Knight star 2

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    That’s a bold statement.

    I’d like to discuss the notion that the Ewoks, whilst conforming to some degree to the principles of Primitive Communism, e.g. gift economics of the Hunter Gather, there is a clear sense of the Noble Savage ideology permeating forth from their on screen depiction.

    Many behavioral scientists have theorized that the seemingly altruistic nature of the Noble Savage may in fact be a romanticised fallacy. I think Lucas draws upon this train of thought in how he demonstrates the bargaining skills of the Ewoks.

    Their willingness to help the rebels in the fight against the Empire isn’t an act indiscriminate kindness. As they (the Ewoks) themselves would also undoubtedly benefit from the extraction of imperial forces from their lands, as the Empire no doubt depletes the natural resources that Ewoks are reliant upon.

    So it’s a mutually beneficial relationship. One could argue that this is a cynical depiction of heroism by Lucas. And is in contradiction to the core ideologies that are woven into the fabric of his normal story telling style, hope, camaraderie, sound morals etc.

    Personally, I doubt he put that much thought into it. I reckon he just heard about Kenners $100 million investment in The Care Bears, and thought, “kerrrching!”.
     
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  9. Happy Sando

    Happy Sando Jedi Master star 4

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  10. Darth Dnej

    Darth Dnej Jedi Master star 4

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    This could get very ugly.
    Sheev Palpatine is obviously the top of authoritarianism and probably in the Auth Right (but not all the way to the right).
    Obi-Wan and a lot of the Jedi are probably left or right-leaning centrists that also are a mix of authority and liberty.
    Boba Fett (in his show) would probably be in the Libertarian Left square (near the center) or the Libertarian Right near the center. He dislikes a lot of authority but realizes it's necessary.
    Hondo would probably be Libertarian Right. He is loyal to no governments and mostly cares about profit (with some exceptions).
    Leia might be libertarian (even if only a bit) on the axis given that she is very wary of a centralized government and thinks planets should have a lot of sway over the New Republic as a whole. Whether she's more left or right-leaning is debatable.
    Communists and even socialists don't really seem to exist much in Star Wars. Some of the smaller settlements or races might be one of the two.
    Here's a video that makes some good points by Generation Tech.