Which gives better DV quality, Premiere 6.5 of FCP3?

Hello all. I'm trying to decide which program gives the better image quality Final Cut Pro 3 or Premiere 6.5.

I've captured some video with premiere but is was'nt great. I was just wondering if there are any people out there who have experience of both programs who can offer some advice from experience??

the reason I ask is that I'm about to start re-capturing my footage and was wondering which prog to go with. Just for capturing reference.

thanks in advance

 

Doesnt anyone want to help me????

 

I doubt you would be able to tell the difference, assuming there is any.

I am assuming there is not.

The only difference I know of between the programs is that FCP uses a Quicktime DV codec, and Premiere (on my PC anyway) uses a Microsoft codec.

I have no idea what Premiere uses on the Mac.

If you are getting some bad video via Premiere I would check your settings, maybe your cable. What is the problem? Dropped frames? Poor quality image?

Some more details would help provide a more detailed answer.

Pete

 

Well, the captured footage was grainey and dull. Now granted that could just be the camera. Or It could just be the settings (I did mess things around a lot - ie: pixel aspect ratios/ resolutions etc) Alot of the footage differed in aspect ratios and such, hence the recapturing. So now I'm re-capturing with default DV PAL or standard PAL settings. I was just aiming for reference on which program had the better chances (if any) of good quality captures, before I went and captured. Capturing with FCP would mean using my home computer, but capturing with premeire would mean taking my camera into college and capturing in a room full of suspect people. However, I am prepared to do this if it will be beneficial to my film.

 

Video playback on your computer will look like crap. Don't judge the quality of the video by the way it plays back. Assuming you capture at 100% quality there should be no difference.

 

if you have a decent capture card, there should be NO difference what-so-ever between the two, and if there is, i would suggest contacting the companies that make them and complaining (see what you can get free out of them at least!)

as long as you're capturing using the same codec or not compressing as all with caputre, then as i said, there should be no difference.

always hook up an external TV monitor if you can, that'll give you a more accurate depiction.

anyway,

Nick "Shorty" Long
Video Editor Extrodanaire!

 

Heya,

I don't think there's a difference between these programs when capturing, it depends on the settings.
Still, if you have an option between Premiere or Final Cut... go Final Cut. It's really more powerful, more stable, and in some ways, easier to use (in my experience, anyway).
If you're capturing DV footage, try setting it to DV NTSC (or PAL), which should be 720 x 540, 30fps.
If you're getting dropped frames, you could defrag your hard disk, or maybe delete stuff you don't need. It usually works on the G4 I edit on.

Beto Skubs

 

If your footage was grainy and dull this sounds more like poor lighting when it was shot than anything to do with a PC.

Does it still look grainy when played back through a TV?

Pete

 

oh yeah, FCP is my program of choice, just ask Pete (Ptx)

anyway,

Nick "Shorty" Long

 

Honestly guys, i've said this before, and I'm SURE that somone out there is just dying to give me a highly technical explanation of why I am wrong... but here goes anyways...

I CONSISTENTLY get better video on a mac than pc... my home computer is apc 3 times as powerful as the macs at school, yet at home I capture and edit with premeire, and get decent on comp results, and great on tv results. But at school, we edit with premeire, but ALWAYS capture with iMovie, because we see that premiere's video is alot more dull and iMovie is just overall more crips and better colors.

Just what I PERSONALLLY HAVE SEEN. Don't kill me.

Cya
MIke

 

ok, here's your technical answer:

the macs at school go through all the students, they've been battered about so much that they're probabaly covered in unmentionables. they're also probably used for all the potheads to store their stash as we all know IT Techs never know anything about MACS.

hell, i'm a mac convert when it comes to video/graphical editing, but i'd never be wothout my trusty(?) old PC


anyway,

Nick "Shorty" Long

 

Well, I've never had the experience with FCP, but all I can say is that I am a huge opposer of quicktime files, because you cant get a true full screen.

Also, I find Premiere incredibly simple to use with effective results.

 

can't get a true full screen??

boy, you should upgrade to Quicktime pro!

anyway,

Nick "Shorty" Long

 

...cant get a true full screen.

That doesn't really have anything to do with image quality (or editing) even if it were true...

 

Just what I PERSONALLLY HAVE SEEN. Don't kill me.

Different gamma settings on the monitors / software.

/Z

 

Wow, thanks for all of the responses guys.
Well, it looks like I'm going with FCP3.

ukk, that means I'm going to have re-install os9 on my system. Sob

 

Does anyone know how to view my video on TV when its running on my machine? I was wondering what equipment I would need to get.

My current system is: PqwerMac G4 tower, 867Mhz, 512MB RAM, 60GB Hard Drive, Geforce2 MX video card, Firewire and USB, DVD-R Drive.

I know I could burn the video to DVD and play it back, but it costs me a 4GB DVD to test the video.

Any ideas??

 

What I generally do is simply hook the TV up to the composite out of my camera. Premiere plays over the firewire and the camera puts it onto the TV.

 

My camera doesnt have a DV in function, that is to say I cant get it to record the video from my mac. If anyone knows how to get it to work please for the love of all that is good and sacred, let me know. I use a Panasonic NV-DS29 mninDV camera.

 

Wow, thanks for all of the responses guys.
Well, it looks like I'm going with FCP3.

Look, are we talking a firewire download from the camera. There is no difference. There can be no difference. It's *digital*. Perhaps the softwares may *present* the material differently (gamma correction or whatnot differs) but it's the same bits. Same. Exact.

/Z