Saga Who is more evil? Separatists v. Empire

Who do you think was more evil? I would say separatists for the fact that they did have a moral and were simply programmed along with the bomb they developed to completely wipe off life forms and how they tested it on a innocent civilization(Clone Wars Tv show). But than again the elite developed a ship able to completely make a planet disappear.

What do you think? Also I don't know a lot about he empire so I couldn't make many points for them. Lastly I'm trying out that poll thing so yea. C'ya.

 

They're both run by the same guy.

 

From the PT, I always felt that the separatists weren't as evil as the Empire. Although they did some pretty crummy stuff, I think they mainly got mixed in with the wrong crowd (the Sith, that is) and that messed them up.

 

Weren't he separatists made by the siths, it not like they got mixed up with them. Also they were controlled by the sith.

 

Empire by far. Separatists actually have several planets and citizens on their side. The Clone Wars episode Heroes on Both Sides comes to mind. I don't know if anyone sympathized with the Empire. They might have pretended to out of fear but some senators were openly supportive of the Separatist cause.

JammerPickle I don't think they knew Dooku was a Sith. They saw him as the political idealist Ki-Adi Mundi talks about in Ep II.

 

Even though they were controlled by the same guy. What they did is the difference. Like who caused more suffering.

 

DBPirate Good point.

 

I think the Separatists had good intentions but the Sith plus the fact that their leaders were greedy businessmen, put their ideas of secession and turned it into something much more sinister.

 

DBPirate Man I didn't realize the purpose of the episode heroes on both sides 'till you mentioned. I thought it was bad since the separatists were jerks the whole time( like dooku ).

 

The Empire because of the greater suffering it inflicted. If the Separatists would have won, I doubt they would have a centralized galactic government. Still, they would probably still be vicious.

 

The Empire. The Separatists at least started out with noble intentions (secede from a corrupt and decaying government and form a better one), albiet ones that were taken advantage of by unsavory forces.

 

Empire, hands down.

 

Separatists never blew up a planet.

 

Sarge They tried too, Ex. The Clone Wars Adventures Comic books.(which aren't canon but still).

 

My slightly more cynical version of this is that the Separatists (if by that you mean the megacorporate bosses who provided the armies and everything) were rich and powerful D-bags who were used to being able to do anything they wanted and being accountable to no one. The Sith just gave them that extra push of "hey, while you're at it, why not take over the galaxy?"

 

I'd say that for sure about some of the groups like the Trade Federation, but some of the Seppies do have noble intentions. Just like with Dooku, those noble intentions are forgotten once there is an opportunity for power.

 

Either that or they weren't allowed anywhere near power.

The original Clone Wars comics continuity had the Commander Merai plotline at Kamino, which to me, felt like a hint that Palpatine and Dooku were either killing or otherwise removing any Separatist leader who actually had idealism and integrity, lest they be around to guide the Confederacy in a better direction.

Then in the Clone Wars TV show you got a Separatist parliament that was shown to have idealists, but they were basically the Seppie version of Bail and Padme, people who might represent the best of their side, but also had no real control over it.

 

The thing about the Clone Wars is no matter who won, Palpatine still would have ended up absolute ruler.

 

The CIS isn't evil. They were literally almost exactly like the Republic - they had a democracy that was run by someone they believed was trying to make things better. They viewed Dooku as a great man much like the Republic viewed Palpatine as a great man. Unfortunately under the guises of Sidious and Tyranus, both Sith Lords infested these two well-meaning organizations with similar problems.

The Empire on the other hand was evil, and when they had the muscle (the Death Star) to show it they did not even try to hide it.

 

After the Republic won the war and transformed into an oppressive Empire, there must have been old ex-Separatists saying "See! I told you so! They were bad news . They just kept it hidden."

 

Empire for sure is more evil.

 

Like this guy?

 

I think it's telling that the Separatists meet their ends at the hands of Vader in an anticlimactic scene.

I feel like the Separatists are robber barons while the Imperial leaders are Nazis, and Nazis are definitely more evil than robber barons.

 

I'm with most when I say as a whole, the Empire trumps the Separatists when it comes to who is more evil.

The Empire destroys entire planets of innocent people, where the Seps invade for use of their planet as a base, attempt to recruit soldiers/slaves, and basically rob them of their economy. Not exactly innocent individuals, I do believe they started with noble and somewhat innocent intentions. They did not wish to be part of the inevitable Galactic Empire that stemmed from the Republic, and they were almost forced into a war because of it.

As another poster stated, both are run by Palps/Sidious/The Emporer, but the Seps didn't know that per say. They ended up joining the man they wished they escape from, it's somewhat ironic.

I've always held the belief that the Separatists were trying to do something revolutionary somewhat peacefully, but just ended up with the wrong people backing them up and turning their cause into something close to as evil as the Empire.

 

Something just now struck me; aside from Dooku (who we're not really sure has a true separatist agenda anymore), all of the separatists are alien life-forms. We talk about the Empire being a "racist" entity; what if this sort of think extends more galaxy-wide (e.g., droids - "We don't serve their kind") than we realized, and the separatists have a pretty strong moral leg to stand on - and seek power not to control but to maintain some sort of racial equilibrium (which also translates to economic equilibrium)?

Of course, the road to hell being paved with good intentions, things get out of hand; but the essence of the movement could be rooted in something profound and just.