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Who is TK-421?

Discussion in 'Classic Trilogy' started by AlecGuinnessBeer, Feb 25, 2004.

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  1. AlecGuinnessBeer

    AlecGuinnessBeer Jedi Youngling

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    This confuses me a bit.

    In the Decipher CCG, Han is portrayed as TK-421. However, I just noticed in the movie for the first time that the imperial looks out the window at what must be Luke who then taps his head acknowledging that he's TK-421 and that his comm system isn't working. Seconds later, the imperial opens the control room door and Han and Chewie are standing there. Luke comes running behind. I don't have a schematic of the docking bay but it doesn't seem likely Han made it from the Falcon to that door within those two seconds.

    Did Decipher get it wrong with the TK-421 card?
     
  2. Indigo_Jade

    Indigo_Jade Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    I never really thought about it that way... however, Han could have stolen TK-421's armor, therefore he is still "TK-421". I doubt very much that the Imperial Officer could tell the difference in the two stormtroopers from where he was, so Luke playing "TK-421" for the purpose of getting the door open works as well...

     
  3. Bib Fortuna Twi'lek

    Bib Fortuna Twi'lek Jedi Youngling star 10

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    Um, no, in the CCG, Han is TK-422. Luke is TK-421.
     
  4. Jedi_Knight_Jonas

    Jedi_Knight_Jonas Jedi Master star 3

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    Ah.....TK-421, my favorite SW charcter. Poor guy. He got shot and had his clothes stolen, then his identity taken. That's a tradgedy if I've ever seen one. NO ONE EVER CARES ABOUT THE IMPORTANT BACKGROUND CHARCTERS!!! WE NEED A TK-421 FAN CLUB MORE THAN A KIT FISTO OR KI-ADI POODO FAN CLUB!!! DO IT FOR TK-421!!!!!


    Seriouslly though, it was Luke who stole my hero's identity and clothes......bastard.....

     
  5. AlecGuinnessBeer

    AlecGuinnessBeer Jedi Youngling

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    Apparently TK-421 is a little short to be a stroomtrooper too, as his clothes fit Luke rather snugly. Yet he still persevered and made his dream come true of being a stormtrooper only to have it shattered by those ruthless rebels.

    Doh! I think you're right. Han is TK-422 in the CCG. There is no TK-421 version of Luke though, or at least one I'm aware of.
     
  6. Bib Fortuna Twi'lek

    Bib Fortuna Twi'lek Jedi Youngling star 10

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    My TK-421 dream card:

    [image=http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Labyrinth/4814/tk421.jpg]

    If the picture doesn't work, copy and paste the URL into your web browser.
     
  7. Darth_Maynard

    Darth_Maynard Jedi Youngling

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    How can Luke be Red 5 if he is TK-421?

    Also, what does TK stand for?

    Thanks
    DM
     
  8. The2ndQuest

    The2ndQuest Tri-Mod With a Mouth star 10 Staff Member Manager

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    He poses as stormtrooper TK-421 on the Death Star, then takes on the callsign Red 5 when he joins Red Squadron at Yavin.
     
  9. Bib Fortuna Twi'lek

    Bib Fortuna Twi'lek Jedi Youngling star 10

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    I don't think TK means anything, per se. It's just a designation for the stormtrooper.
     
  10. Stormtrooper_Shrink

    Stormtrooper_Shrink Jedi Master star 4

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    In the script - or at least a copy I have - he's TK-412!

    I'd say it's a typo.
     
  11. Warrior_of_Mandalore

    Warrior_of_Mandalore Jedi Padawan star 4

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    The real question here is who isn't TK-421. He represents the dreams of every man, woman, and child. He stands for every stormtrooper that ever collapsed with a smoking hole in his chest. TK-421 is more than a mere stormtrooper, he, my friends, is the embodiment of the Imperial dream. He is everything good and wholesome in the universe. TK-421, I SALUTE YOU! LONG MAY YOU STAND!

    Thank you.

    Warrior_of_Mandalore Strikes Again!
     
  12. Naboo1

    Naboo1 Jedi Padawan star 4

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    Isn't TK-421 just a clone, anyway?
     
  13. Bib Fortuna Twi'lek

    Bib Fortuna Twi'lek Jedi Youngling star 10

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    Not necessarily. He could have been a recruit.
     
  14. Lord_Hydronium

    Lord_Hydronium Manager Emeritus star 5 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    In the novelization, he's "THX-1138". I guess that was a little too blatant.
     
  15. Errant_Venture

    Errant_Venture Manager Emeritus star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Just a little. ;)

    TK probably means nothing in the Imperial military, just a designation. The Empire probably has the Stormie designations starting with AA then AB, AC, etc. until they reach ZY, ZZ. So my guess is TK just happens to be way down the line. Anyone care enough to find out just what position TK represents? AA is obviously 1 and AB is 2, so take it from there someone! :p
     
  16. Dark Lady Mara

    Dark Lady Mara Manager Emeritus star 7 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    It's about the 500th position, and he's the 421st of presumably 1000 to that set. So he's the 500,000th stormtrooper made, approximately. :p
     
  17. WMCoolmon

    WMCoolmon Jedi Padawan star 4

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    So who is TK-421? I always wondered about this myself.
     
  18. JediMasterChiefYoda

    JediMasterChiefYoda Jedi Master star 3

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    You know what would be really awful? If TK-421 was a spy planted by the rebellion. It can't be easy to get them in the system safely, and then some whiny farmboy comes along and off all the troops on the Death Star, he blasts your spy.

    Edit: wording.
     
  19. therealdarthdork

    therealdarthdork Jedi Youngling

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    Ah, how sad indeed. In the prime of his life. All his life he dreamed of being a stormtrooper for the Empire. I can almost guarentee you that he played Stormtroopers and Space Pirates (not like he knows what Cowboy's and Indians is now does he) as a little boy. I mean, who didn't after all. It's good training at that age.

    And then, when he finally gets his dream job, and the honor of being allowed to serve on the Death Star, he's knocked out, probably killed, simply because he had a generous streak to him, and wanted to help them set up the equipment. And no one even heard him get hit. Not a single soul went to check his strange disapearence. He was left to die, by the organization he loved so dearly, simply because some old fool and a farmboy wanted to go on a vacation.

    TK-421, I salute you.

    Darth Dork^_^
     
  20. itchytasty79

    itchytasty79 Jedi Youngling star 3

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    Dark Lady Mara= too much time on your hands
     
  21. Plo_Koen

    Plo_Koen Jedi Padawan star 4

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    TK-421 is the Belgium Star Wars fanclub.
     
  22. AlecGuinnessBeer

    AlecGuinnessBeer Jedi Youngling

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    If TK-421 and TK-422 were shot, how come there's no marks on the armor after Luke and Han don them?
     
  23. k-man

    k-man Jedi Youngling star 3

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    Maybe TK-421 and 422 weren't shot. Maybe it's their blaster fire we hear as Chewie breaks their necks.
     
  24. Lightsabre

    Lightsabre Fan Force Founder star 4 VIP

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    If TK-421 and TK-422 were shot, how come there's no marks on the armor after Luke and Han don them?

    I've always wondered this, always. Perhaps the Stormtroopers misfired, since they do that a lot at close range and Chewie went mad-claw on 'em.

    However, the shots sound a lot like Han's pistol. Perhaps they were shot in the back. Do we ever the see Han and Luke in the armor from behind? If they were shot in the back then Han is more of a scoundrel and murderer than we thought. ANOTHER REASON WHY HE DID SHOOT FIRST IN THE CANTINA! Sorry for yelling.

    The fact that there were blaster shots refutes any idea that Obi-Wan used the force to subdue them.
     
  25. therealdarthdork

    therealdarthdork Jedi Youngling

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    I always figured that they knocked them not first, and then within seconds put on the armor and shot them in the back...but then I realized that that messed with space/time. I'm of the opinion that the Stormtroopers misfired because that makes more sense, and the fact that I never noticed a bullat hole in the armor, back or front.

    Darth Dork^_^
     
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