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JCC Who Stole The Scene? Heat: Pacino vs De Niro

Discussion in 'Community' started by Darth Punk , Jan 6, 2023.

  1. Darth Punk

    Darth Punk JCC Manager star 7 Staff Member Manager

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    Here we debate classic movie scenes. Specifically, which actor stole the scene.

    First up:

    Heat - The Coffee Shop Scene
    WARNING: Language
     
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  2. Rylo Ken

    Rylo Ken Chosen One star 7

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    For me De Niro's quiet confidence helps Pacino tone down his bombast. They're both playing off each other, and it's fantastic, but it's De NIro driving the tone. I give him this round.
     
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  3. Boba_Fett_2001

    Boba_Fett_2001 Chosen One star 8

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    The ketchup bottle.
     
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  4. Ramza

    Ramza Administrator Emeritus star 10 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    The scene is still in the film so I have to conclude it wasn't stolen at all. Unless they reshot it I guess; then it would be quite the mystery.
     
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  5. Bacon164

    Bacon164 Chosen One star 8

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    If the question has to be raised, can it be argued that either actor stole this scene?
     
  6. Darth Guy

    Darth Guy Chosen One star 10

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    SHE GOT A... GREAT ASS!
     
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  7. Pro Scoundrel

    Pro Scoundrel New Films Expert At Modding Casual star 6 Staff Member Manager

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    Irresistible Force = Immovable Object
     
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  8. Darth Punk

    Darth Punk JCC Manager star 7 Staff Member Manager

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    “Don't let yourself get attached to anything you are not willing to walk out on in 30 seconds flat if you feel the heat around the corner”.

    Say’s dude who’s just been pulled over by a Detective who tracked him down in a helicopter.

    Pacino wins
     
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  9. Adam of Nuchtern

    Adam of Nuchtern Chosen One star 6

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    I think Pacino's performance in Heat is kind of underrated in that the hammier moments are intentionally meant to come across as ridiculous. It's the character putting on a persona.
     
  10. Darth Punk

    Darth Punk JCC Manager star 7 Staff Member Manager

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    Hanna has a lot on his plate in his personal life in this movie. McCauley doesn’t even have furniture.
     
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  11. Pro Scoundrel

    Pro Scoundrel New Films Expert At Modding Casual star 6 Staff Member Manager

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    I've never heard anyone underrate anything about Heat. I only know people who love it as much as I do.
     
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  12. Darth Punk

    Darth Punk JCC Manager star 7 Staff Member Manager

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    Adam is the flipside to that coin
     
  13. Jedi Ben

    Jedi Ben Chosen One star 10

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    That sequence that sets up the coffee scene is probably one of my favourites.

    New Dawn Fades kicks in as Hanna is flown across LA at night to then pursue McCauley.

    It's brilliant.
     
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  14. Darth Punk

    Darth Punk JCC Manager star 7 Staff Member Manager

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    For Ben, the action is the juice
     
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  15. Darth_Duck

    Darth_Duck Chosen One star 5

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    Alex Colville.

    Nevermind. That was a different scene. And it was stolen from him.
     
  16. Guidman

    Guidman Skywalker Saga Mod and Trivia Host star 6 Staff Member Manager

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    The correct answer is Moby.



    You look up the definition of perfection: it's this song kicking in at the end of the film.
     
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  17. VadersLaMent

    VadersLaMent Chosen One star 10

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  18. Darth Punk

    Darth Punk JCC Manager star 7 Staff Member Manager

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    I’m talking to an empty telephone
     
  19. Darth_Duck

    Darth_Duck Chosen One star 5

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  20. Darth Punk

    Darth Punk JCC Manager star 7 Staff Member Manager

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    Who has the best hair?
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  21. Adam of Nuchtern

    Adam of Nuchtern Chosen One star 6

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    Back in 1989, Mann essentially took a stripped down version of the script for Heat and shot it as a made-for-TV film called L.A. Takedown with Alex McArthur and Scott Plank in the lead roles and Xander Berkeley as Waingro. It's nowhere near as good as Heat, and not that good in general, but it is fascinating when viewed as a dress rehearsal, as Mann would later call it.

    Here's it's version of the coffee shop scene:



    And here's the bank robbery/shootout from both as a point of comparison:



    (Some NSFW language in this one)
     
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  22. Darth Punk

    Darth Punk JCC Manager star 7 Staff Member Manager

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    Waingro. I always assumed his name was Wayne Grow
     
  23. VadersLaMent

    VadersLaMent Chosen One star 10

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    Lil trivia. It is known that the conflict between these two was based on real life. And apparently had coffee together and had a talk something like this. Neil, though I don't know his real name off hand, did not have an epic film ending. His group robbed a small store and were chased down and he got shot on someone's front lawn.
     
  24. darth-sinister

    darth-sinister Manager Emeritus star 10 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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  25. Luke02

    Luke02 Chosen One star 6

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