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Who wanted more Jedi Purge?

Discussion in 'Archive: Revenge of the Sith (Non-Spoilers)' started by IceGambit, May 23, 2005.

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  1. IceGambit

    IceGambit Jedi Youngling star 1

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    My only real problem with Episode III is that the little montage of a few Jedi being killed by Clonetroopers was not as epic or grand as the Purge should have been. I like to think that the Purge continued offscreen.

    According to Lucas and EU sources before thr PT began, Vader was responsible for most of the Jedi Purge. That's how his name came to be so feared and he garnered the reputation for being the biggest badass in the galaxy: by wiping out all the Jedi. I wish we had seen al least some of this onscreen. By the end of EPisode III, Vader is a pathetic character, not one to be totally feared. And I refuse to believe that every Jedi except for Obiwan and Yoda couldn't survive an attack by CLonetroops. And the fanboy in me likes to think Boba Fett also participates in the Purge.

    Anyone else wish Lucas had spent more time telling that part of the story?
     
  2. Apophis

    Apophis Jedi Padawan star 4

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    I would've liked to see Anakin fight a few well-known Jedi in the Jedi Temple like Shaak Ti or someone ...
     
  3. Obi Anne

    Obi Anne Celebration Mistress of Ceremonies star 8 Staff Member Manager

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    I found it strange that Shaak Ti and Barriss Offee have been made into action figures, when they weren't in the film at all. This must mean that scenes with them have been cut quite late in the production. I'm hoping that we will get to see them in the deleted scenes on the DVD.
     
  4. qui_gon_jinn_83

    qui_gon_jinn_83 Jedi Master star 1

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    I'm not sure, but I think there was a scene cut where Anakin killed a meditating Shaak Ti in the Jedi temple.

    The Jedi Purge is fine by me the way it is, it definetely shows that Jedi are getting killed, and it gets the point across. The only thing I'd like to see more of is the action inside the Jedi temple.
    We see a short shot of a jedi falling, and you can see some other jedi far away, but that's it really (except for the Younglings scene).
    I think it would be nice to see more of that, jedi being defeated in their own temple is a very sad thought somehow.

    But overall, I am very happy how Lucas handled the Purge in the film.
     
  5. TurnedJedi

    TurnedJedi Jedi Youngling star 2

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    I didn't want anymore! I felt bad enough with what we saw.
     
  6. MYMUTHAZ

    MYMUTHAZ Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    i would have liked to see anakin fighting more of the adult jedi.
     
  7. kingthlayer

    kingthlayer Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    According to Lucas and EU sources before thr PT began, Vader was responsible for most of the Jedi Purge. That's how his name came to be so feared and he garnered the reputation for being the biggest badass in the galaxy: by wiping out all the Jedi

    But Vader DID do this on a huge extent. He led the attack against the Jedi Temple and killed younglings, knights and masters alike. It doesn't happen completely onscreen but it's hinted at to the point where its obvious; i.e. the lighting of his saber where the younglings are gathered. The only difference was that he was not in the suit yet.

    I liked the Jedi Purge scene. I had difficulty figuring out which planet was what (I thought Felucia was Saleucami) but other than that I thought it was well done.
     
  8. Mr. P

    Mr. P FanFic Archive Editor, Manager Emeritus star 5 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    I really liked the jedicide, I was really surprised we got to see it on screen at all. It was not too short, but not long enogh either that it would mess up the pacing of the film. And the music was so chilling!!

    Mr. P
     
  9. DarthTickle

    DarthTickle Jedi Youngling star 1

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    I thought the Order 66 scene was one of the most haunting and beautiful scenes of the entire saga. The sad music, the muted sounds of blasters and screams, the looks on the betrayed Jedis' faces. It was pretty gut-wrenching, I can't imagine it being done much better. Plus, it's pretty obvious that Vader led the attack on the temple in which many Jedi, young and old, died. Obi-Wan's words in Ep IV still hold up.
     
  10. beedubew

    beedubew Jedi Youngling star 2

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    Initially, I wanted to see more adult Jedi die at the hands of Vader. However, after thinking on it more, Obi-wan says that "a young Jedi named Darth Vader...helped the Empire hunt down and destroy the Jedi Knights. (or something very similar to that.) That is exactly what we saw: Vader helping the Empire destroy the Jedi. I suspect that there will be other EU or TV stories where we see Vader mopping up (i.e. hunting down other Jedi) the few Jedi who survived Order 66.
     
  11. kingthlayer

    kingthlayer Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Yeah, what he stated was there. I think a lot of people built their own expectations from his words on incorrect presumptions.

    Yeah, Order 66 is a haunting, very well done scene. I seriously need to see this film a second time.
     
  12. youngvader

    youngvader Jedi Knight star 5

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    a young Jedi named Darth Vader...helped the Empire hunt down and destroy the Jedi Knights

    It's something like that and therefore, the purge was well done. I'm guessing that Vader, hurt by the death of Padme, will become more and more evil.
     
  13. Darth_Sailant

    Darth_Sailant Jedi Youngling star 1

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    I think it's great as it is. We don't need to see every single Jedi perish to know that they do...

    A powerful, and beautifully shot / edited scene.
     
  14. Lars_Muul

    Lars_Muul Jedi Grand Master star 6

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    By the end of EPisode III, Vader is a pathetic character, not one to be totally feared.

    That is exactly the point and probably the reason why his "NOOO" scene was not the last scene with dialogue. Because Anakin made such an unwise choice, he lost his chance to be a hero and became a pathetic bad guy instead.
    Listen to Lucas on the ANH audio commentary. He says that in that episode, Vader is a rather pathetic character. Now, with ROTS, we can see exactly what he means.

    I think I would've liked to see more of the temple purge, but it's probably not needed, because the scene is very powerful the way it is. It's tragic and it makes you lose a lot of sympathy for Anakin.



    Darth Vader is pathetic
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  15. IceGambit

    IceGambit Jedi Youngling star 1

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    But Vader DID do this on a huge extent. He led the attack against the Jedi Temple and killed younglings, knights and masters alike. It doesn't happen completely onscreen but it's hinted at to the point where its obvious; i.e. the lighting of his saber where the younglings are gathered. The only difference was that he was not in the suit yet.

    Right - this is the stuff I wanted to see. I don't care about him in the suit or not - he became Vader for me when Palps gave him that name.

    We didn't get to see enough of the stuff inside the temple. The younglings was a nice touch, but the editing makes it seem like that is all who was left in the Jedi Temple, until later dialogue and corpse discovery by Obiwan and Yoda. If there really were hundreds of Jedi in there, why didn't we get to see Vader cut them down? Is it a too-dark-for-kids issue with Lucas?

    Regarding the suit, though, that is what the galaxy fears by the OT, and I wanted to see a little of why. Most people probably don't know that the guy in that creepy suit is Anakin Skywalker. I guess I have to be content with my imagination.
     
  16. Apophis

    Apophis Jedi Padawan star 4

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    I would have liked Plo Koon to go with Mace Windu, Agen Kolar and Kit Fisto instead of Saesee Tiin.

    Then Palpatine should have stabbed Agen, pushed Windu and Fisto aside and then turned against Koon.
    I would have liked it if Palpatine just ripped off that mask of Plo so he would suffocate ...
    Then he could behead Kit Fisto and then turn on Windu.

    That would've been a nice beginning for the Purge.
    I hope we see some more deaths from the Jedi in the future in books and comics ...
     
  17. DarthBabe

    DarthBabe Jedi Grand Master star 7

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    I was pleased with the slaughter. What more could you want? Did you want to see him actually killing the younglings?
     
  18. Lars_Muul

    Lars_Muul Jedi Grand Master star 6

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    It's not as if you don't see any of the temple slaughter. Right before the Council chamber scene, you see some intense action between Jedi and clones in the hallways of the temple. So, you won't think that the younglings are the only Jedi left if you don't look away from the screen.



    MUHAHAHAHAAA
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  19. Ellbobin

    Ellbobin Jedi Padawan star 4

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    Theres a pic in the maing of book of anikin standing behind a meditating shaak ti, and baris was in the comic book. Maybe they were scraped because they are going to be in the TV show...
     
  20. thenink

    thenink Jedi Youngling star 2

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    It was enough...it got the point across.

    Maybe we will see more of Vader 'hunting' down Jedi in the T.V. series?
     
  21. Ghost_Jedi

    Ghost_Jedi Jedi Grand Master star 6

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    I would like to have seen, Anakin duel at least one Jedi in the temple, before he went to the Younglings. Maybe an established Jedi? Whatever happened to Nick Gilard's character? That would have been great.
     
  22. NorCalBirdz

    NorCalBirdz Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    What I don't like is that Palpatine could have accomplished the Jedi Purge just as easily WITHOUT Anakin. I used to think he was essential to Palpatine's plans, but he wasn't really neccesary.
     
  23. Lars_Muul

    Lars_Muul Jedi Grand Master star 6

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    I never thought that. Too bad you did :(
    You might start to like it in time, though.



    Six episodes, two trilogies, one saga
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  24. Ghost_Jedi

    Ghost_Jedi Jedi Grand Master star 6

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    Palpatine could have accomplished the Jedi Purge just as easily WITHOUT Anakin

    Well WITHOUT he would never been able to order Order 66.
     
  25. Kiki-Gonn

    Kiki-Gonn Jedi Grand Master star 6

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    I've thought a lot about this...

    Getting Anakin on his side gave Sidious the confidence to execute Order 66. Just look at the dialouge when he tells Yoda, "Darth Vader will become more powerful than you or I" and (very important) the way he tries to run from Yoda, "If so powerful you have become, why leave?" He would not have run if Anakin was there with him.
    It's even arguable that he couldn't take out Mace without Anakin.
    Anakin was his insurance policy. What if several Jedi survived Order 66? That's what Anakin was for. Also, the attack on the Jedi Temple would probably have at least some surviving Jedi if Anakin wasn't there.
     
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