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why all the jedis look so weak after the clone wars

Discussion in 'Prequel Trilogy' started by al-mag-deon, Jun 9, 2005.

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  1. al-mag-deon

    al-mag-deon Jedi Youngling

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    they could do so amazing thing tnings??
     
  2. Darth_Masticator

    Darth_Masticator Jedi Youngling star 1

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    MOD EDIT: That wasn't nice.
     
  3. Lars_Muul

    Lars_Muul Jedi Grand Master star 6

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    That was not very nice.

    As Windu says in AOTC, their ability to use the Force has diminished. Probably because the dark side is growing, which happens because Sidious and Dooku control pretty much everyone in the Galaxy.



    The dark side is strong
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  4. al-mag-deon

    al-mag-deon Jedi Youngling

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    or may be because they didn't knew,ever, watha was coming.
     
  5. FallenKnight88

    FallenKnight88 Jedi Youngling star 3

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    War takes a toll on everyone...including Jedi.
     
  6. Darth-Stryphe

    Darth-Stryphe Former Mod and City Rep star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Because the portrayal of Jedi in the OT was very conventional, heroes with mystical abilities. Their portrayal in the PT was as super men/women. Had GL directed TPM first in '77, the Jedi would have been less over the top, just as they were in ANH.
     
  7. Husk

    Husk Jedi Youngling

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    War takes a toll on everyone...including Jedi.

    I agree, War is full of negativity which leads to negative emotions, somthing that the Jedi strive to control or risk falling to the darkside.
     
  8. redsabreanakin

    redsabreanakin Jedi Knight star 5

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    The clone wars cartoon made the Jedi look superhuman and that ruined it for the movies. I think the reverse, i think the cartoon made the jedi look riduculous..Volume 2 with Windu riding around on the top of his speeder was just awful..it was downright stupid actually..i mean c'mon? the cartoon by itself was great up til that point.
     
  9. rumsmuggler

    rumsmuggler Chosen One star 7

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    The cartoon didn't ruin the movie in any way. In the commentary, the director openly said that he overexaggerated the powers of the jedi to make it a bit more cartoony and fun to look at.

    If you think about it, the Jedi were always superhuman in their abilites.
     
  10. BC_Eagles_67

    BC_Eagles_67 Jedi Youngling star 1

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    I think as said before (above) the Clone Wars series was intended to entertain the youth and to give the clone wars some life beyond the films. To say the Clone Wars series ruined AOTC or ROTS would be similar to saying Droids or the Ewoks cartoons ruined the OT... as they essentially do the same type of thing, they entertain the youth and fill in some backstory. Granted each series had varying degrees of success but they should be taken for what they are, they are entertainment for the youth while giving the older viewers something to fill their Star Wars needs. Not to mention the marketing event that all three of these cartoons produced.. they each allowed Kenner/Hasbro to sell figures among other items.


    On topic:
    The Jedi seem weak because they are worn down from being away from home for so long.. everyone feels this way eventually.. just ask the soldiers in the middle east and Korea.
     
  11. Dan-akin

    Dan-akin Jedi Youngling

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    You have to remember.. what Mace Windu said about "I think it is time we inform the senate that our ability to use the force has diminished." you can see the jedi getting weaker in every movie if you take a close enough look... in the first they can do "everything" and in ROTS they have diminshed greatly, as have there numbers
     
  12. Kenobis_Babe

    Kenobis_Babe Jedi Grand Master star 2

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    Cartoons are designed to be over the top, that's what is so great about animation. If they did that in the movie, it would look like the Matrix, which I love, but this is Star Wars.
     
  13. BanthaFodder22

    BanthaFodder22 Jedi Youngling star 1

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    You have to admit though, they drop like wild flies, some of them don't put of a fight!
     
  14. ssjd

    ssjd Jedi Youngling star 1

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    >>>>>>As Windu says in AOTC, their ability to use the Force has diminished. Probably because the dark side is growing, which happens because Sidious and Dooku control pretty much everyone in the Galaxy.<<<<<

    If thats true then how did they distroy them 1000 years before.If 2 sith can make the jedi "weak" what can 100's do.
    (I'm not arguing because you said probally)

    And the rest of you,If their force powers have diminished for 1000 years why did a padwan(obi-wan) beat a sith who had been traning all his life to fight the jedi.

    as for the question; Some of the strongest jedi ever were fighting around the time of the clone wars. I.E. anakin skywalker,obi-wan,yoda,mace windo, pol koon etc. If any thing they were at the height of their power but not their strength.

    Even in the jedi order its survival of the fittest,those who could abapt with the dark threat lived longer than those who couldnt.
     
  15. Kenobis_Babe

    Kenobis_Babe Jedi Grand Master star 2

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    You have to admit though, they drop like wild flies, some of them don't put of a fight!

    Lol, so true! They could have fought as hard as they did at Geonosis, look at how much fire they were under there. Even though many died, they still fought hard. Aayla Secura's death was just pitiful.
     
  16. OBIX1

    OBIX1 Jedi Grand Master star 6

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    Yeah,I noticed this too. I was thinking after seeing ROTS a couple times-"The Jedi seemed so much more powerful in TPM". I agree that it ties in to Mace's-"Our ability to use the force has diminished". I think the Jedi kept getting weaker. Plus,after being dragged through the CW for 3 years,I'm sure they were exhausted to death. :)
     
  17. DARTH_VRUC

    DARTH_VRUC Jedi Youngling star 2

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    Why do you think they are exausted?
    The clones were the ones to fight, Jedi were merely generals.Yes, I don't argue that they dought when needed, but they usually stayed at the HQ and comanded the throops (instead of the clone commanders, who would have done far better job).
    I've never seen the Jedi as superhumen.Apart from some scenes in TPM why did you reach that conclusion?Even in the TPM Jedi were'nt all that powerfull-Qui-Gons "We can't fight a war for you" is enough I think.
    In every SW movie we get to see them as great warriors, yes.But thats also theirs problem-too overconfident in their own abilities.Thats why Lucas makes them look "weak"-to emphasise they are just normal beings, after all, not Gods.
     
  18. OBIX1

    OBIX1 Jedi Grand Master star 6

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    "Why do you think they are exausted?"

    Well,just from going through the life of fighting constant battles for one thing. Also,probably lack of sleep,being away from the temple for months on end,the emotional drain of doing something they didn't want to do. ("We're keepers of the peace,not solders.") Also,seeing their order die off slowly,and the knowledge that the dark side was on the rise. That'de be enough to drain them after awhile. :)
     
  19. ssjd

    ssjd Jedi Youngling star 1

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    I repeat

    If thats true then how did they distroy them 1000 years before.If 2 sith can make the jedi "weak" what can 100's do.

    If they fought sith and "killed em off" how could some stupid droids and 2 (really 1:The count) sith diminish their power.I know GL probally didnt think of this but it dosent make sence.
     
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