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why did GL put the droid factory scene in?

Discussion in 'Archive: Attack of the Clones' started by DARTH_FLACCID, Jul 18, 2002.

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  1. DARTH_FLACCID

    DARTH_FLACCID Jedi Youngling star 1

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    we know that the script didn't originally contain Anakin and Padme's fight in the droid factory. I'm a little confused as to what it's doing in the movie.. what comes out of it?

    1) Anakin and Padme are fighting in the factory. We see Anakin in action (which we see in the arean) and they both run thru the equipment in a way that can only remind the audience of a Mario game (did I hear this was a reference to a very old movie? which one, again?)

    2) they get captured. that could have been done w/out the factory.

    2) C3PO loses his head, leading to bad puns in the arena battle.

    3) We see R2-D2 fly. sure, it looks cool but its really just a silly gimmick and only raises questions of why he doesn't fly in the OT. why did he push 3PO off the bridge, anyway? did he want to turn 3PO into a poorly animated character for a couple of minutes?

    now, I know people have pointed out that Anakin getting his arm trapped is foreshadowing of his robotic arm. but that sequence is kinda contrived: his arm gets trapped by the press but it just happens to not flatten his hand?

    also, there was a good thread about Padme in the crucible. but aside from those, can someone explain why this set piece was necessary? I would have preferred a trial scene w/ Padme confronting Dooku.
     
  2. TokyoXtreme

    TokyoXtreme Jedi Master star 4

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    It's more of a Mega Man game, isn't it? Actually, I thought it was closer to those awful SNES platformers in the early 90s. Those games just sucked!
     
  3. ChancellorGoauld

    ChancellorGoauld Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Anakin and Padme needed to get caught somehow by Jango, and the droids needed to do *something* in this movie to make it a real star wars movie. Also seeing a droid factory is a pretty cool part of the Star Wars universe that would have been sad if George never showed us.

    Also Anakin's lightsabre is destroyed in the factory, which I bet is a minor plot point in Episode 3.
     
  4. ChancellorGoauld

    ChancellorGoauld Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    And if that's not enough reason to *justify this scene for you*, then you are just a basher who has come here to incite trouble!
     
  5. Forceuser

    Forceuser Jedi Youngling star 1

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    Because it would be entertaining and maybe he thought those scenes could create some suspense, whether or not Anakin and Padme die before even trying to rescue Obi-wan.
     
  6. RogueTrader

    RogueTrader Jedi Master star 4

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    Also, as one of the forum goers pointed out the other day, by having Padme' in a situation where she knows death may be seconds away (before artoo saved her) she regretted not telling Anakin her true feelings - leading her to tell him in their next scene - when death is just seconds away again.


    I just don't know if George himself thought of that. :)

    Other than that I see the factory as something just for artoo and threepio. It's cool looking though.
     
  7. DARTH_FLACCID

    DARTH_FLACCID Jedi Youngling star 1

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    yo, hey, I'm not a basher. If I didn't love these movies I wouldn't be here. the whole factory thing just seemed weird to me.

    Anakin's lightsaber being destroyed isn't that important, is it? he would have lost it anyway if they'd just been captured. and I've heard speculation that "Obi-Wan's gonna kill me!" is prophetic, but we don't know that yet....

    I can dig that the droids need to do something.... I'd like to hear more, however. and more beyond "because it is entertaining/look cool", I want to know what parts of the character development and plot needed this. yes, I await the DVD....
     
  8. Sith-Warrior

    Sith-Warrior Jedi Youngling

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    I think I'm the only person in the world who enjoyed Threepio's puns(I'm also one of the few who enjoyed Jar Jar), but anyways...

    I liked this scen, yet I didn't. All it was was just some tinkering and playing around with the environment. That's okay and can be done in a movie, but it was blatantly obvious that I was watching a platform videogame. Now, I'm just about the biggest video game junky I know, but it seemed a little out of place to me to have Crash Bandicoot-action in a SW movie. It was a fun scene, and I can appreciate that, but it was a little out of place.
     
  9. TokyoXtreme

    TokyoXtreme Jedi Master star 4

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    Also Anakin's lightsabre is destroyed in the factory, which I bet is a minor plot point in Episode 3.

    OBI-WAN: Anakin, it's been three years, the Clones Wars are almost over, and you still haven't made a new lightsaber!

    ANAKIN: Sorry Master.

    OBI-WAN: Your lightsaber is your life!

    ANAKIN: (somewhat angrily) I know Master.

    OBI-WAN: When we get back to Coruscant, I demand you construct a new lightsaber.

    ANAKIN: (slips) AHHH!!! I fell into a pool of lava! Curse you Obi-Wan!!!!

    OBI-WAN: Oh, not good.
     
  10. Duckman

    Duckman Jedi Padawan star 4

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    Tokyo, if only you were writing the prequels ;)
     
  11. ChancellorGoauld

    ChancellorGoauld Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    lol
    no, it's just that Anakin's AOTC sabre is identical to Darth Vader's sabre, apart from the exact bit that was destroyed (the emitter).
     
  12. SHAD0W-JEDI

    SHAD0W-JEDI Force Ghost star 4

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    I didn't have the problems with this scene that some have, as I saw it mainly as a "stand alone" action set piece, much akin to the garbage compactor scene in ANH (more characterization in that scene, granted), and I enjoyed the action, but I will grant that you can make a case that the time COULD have been better spent elsewhere, given that (in the opinion of some, myself included!) there were other elements of the story that felt rushed or crowded (yes, yes, I am one of those who feel that the romance between Anakin and Padme suffered greatly for the fact that GL had to show both their falling in love AND Anakin's "Dark Side" tendencies in the same scenes far too often!).

    I also want to touch on something mentioned briefly above - it is hard to know just how much symbolism here is intentional, and how much is read into the movies by eager fans... ;)

    Shadow
     
  13. Obi-Ewan

    Obi-Ewan Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    I would have preferred a trial scene w/ Padme confronting Dooku.

    Oh, you mean like the one in the script? I thought everyone knew better than to compare a movie to a script.
     
  14. RogueTrader

    RogueTrader Jedi Master star 4

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    I would have preferred a trial scene w/ Padme confronting Dooku.

    Why not both?
     
  15. Zam86

    Zam86 Jedi Youngling

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    you know, i personally like that scene for a few reasons....

    1. We see anakin in action to prove why he is a great jedi. sure we see him in the arena, but not solo, he's with 1-2 hundred jedi.

    2. it adds some unexpected action

    3.ITS STAR WARS, why not make the movie longer.
     
  16. Vaderbait

    Vaderbait Jedi Knight star 6

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    They had to do soemthing to get captured.

    ::mutters;: First they say there isn't enough action, now there's too much?


    Anyways, the droid factory scene had great effects, except for 3PO. It's "purpose" was to be a fun little excursion, like what we love in the OT, remember? [face_plain]
     
  17. MadMardigan

    MadMardigan Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    It's more of a Mega Man game, isn't it? Actually, I thought it was closer to those awful SNES platformers in the early 90s. Those games just sucked!

    There was a board just like this scene in the game Contra for the original NES. Contra, though, didn't suck. Neither did Mega Man if you were implying that. At the time those games were phenomenal.
     
  18. OB3

    OB3 Jedi Youngling star 3

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    1. We had to see the Geonosians in action.
    2. We had to see Anakin in more action
    using his lightsaber and the force.
    3. We had to see that there were droids
    being built in large numbers to be
    ready to use in a battle.
    4. Most importantly we had to see Padme
    be close to death in order for her to
    tell Anakin of her love for him
    just before their scheduled
    Arena execution. (See topic
    Importance of "melting pot" scene)
     
  19. Jabbadabbado

    Jabbadabbado Manager Emeritus star 7 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    AOTC is, more than anything else, George Lucas's vision of what he thought the fans wanted. Many people feel Lucas "got the message" from TPM backlash and are happy that he bent over backwards to appease fans with AOTC. That's why Jar Jar has all but vanished, Yoda is fighting, Jango Fett is a stand-in for Boba Fett, and Padme is wearing revealing outfits. At some point, GL decided some fans would complain that C3PO and R2 didn't have a big enough role. Hence the droid factory scene.
     
  20. Boba_Phat

    Boba_Phat Jedi Padawan star 4

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    The droid factory scene had the same purpose in AOTC that the trash compactor scene had in ANH. It's there to see the heoroes be put in a little bit of danger.
     
  21. SLAVE2

    SLAVE2 Jedi Knight star 5

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    I loved the droid factory, pure Star Wars.
     
  22. hew

    hew Jedi Master star 4

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    The reason the droid factory sequence is in the movie is because Lucas thought the design for the factory - which was originally only going to be shown briefly - was too good to not build an unnecessary action sequence around it and shoe-horn it into the film regardless of whether it fit or not. [face_plain]
     
  23. markdil

    markdil Jedi Youngling star 2

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    We also got to see Anakin using the dark side of the force... throwing around the Geonosians.
     
  24. MadMardigan

    MadMardigan Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    We also got to see Anakin using the dark side of the force... throwing around the Geonosians.

    That was perfectly inside the realm of Jedi force usage. Only for defense never attack. It is later in the duel where we see him using anger and hatred. So still the scene is unnecessary.
     
  25. knightboat82

    knightboat82 Jedi Youngling

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    he did it because he could...no other explanation is needed.
     
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