CT Why did Palpatine and Vader refer to Anakin as a seperate person ?

How come when Palpatine and Vader are talking to each other in private they always refer to Annakin skywalker as a seperate person from Darth Vader ?



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Darth Vader and Anakin are metaphorically but not literally different people. One was a Jedi who served the Republic, one was a Sith who serves the Emperor and his demands. It's Palpatine's way of making sure Vader buries and disconnects from his past self, which Vaderbis probably keen to do.

 

As PymParticles said it serves as a disconnect from the past. Anakin wouldn't have burned a refugee camp to the ground to demoralize a Rebel Cell.

It might be also one of the few ways he can deal with what he has become; separate himself like that. IDK.

 

I always thought this happened to allow one of the greatest plot twists in cinematic history

 

Search your feelings Lord Vader, you know that is to be true. That is why he said this in this fashion.

 

Vader says himself in ROTJ, "That name no longer has any meaning." They both know that they are, literally speaking, the same person, but Anakin no longer wants to associate with that part of his life (until Luke redeems him).

I used to think that all Sith renounce their former names once they receive a Darth name, but now I'm not so sure since Palpatine and Count Dooku seem to continue using their original names.

 

They don't consider that part of Vaders life anymore as stated above. Darth Sidious still uses the name Palpatine as only a few know his true identity and most of the galaxy did not believe in Siths or knew about them, but most people heard tells of Jedi in the known galaxy. Remember we did not know Palpatine and Vader were known as Siths til TPM, we only knew about the Jedi in the ANH, TESB, and ROTJ. Count Dooku still used his own name since not many knew who he really was except the Jedi, but the Jedi did not make that known except to a few that were close to the Jedi Order.

 

Well said. It is as though Anakin is dead. A similar concept is utilized in Rebels when Vader and Sidious refer to Ahsoka as the "apprentice of Anakin Skywalker." Vader hates himself, but he also wants to forget everything he cared about and knew as Anakin, which is technically impossible and he never truly does. That's part of what makes him a fascinating character.

 

That's actually pretty much what Luke himself said:

Luke: Search your feelings, Father, you can't do this. I feel the conflict within you. Let go of your hate.
Darth Vader: It is too late for me, son. The Emperor will show you the true nature of the Force. He is your master now.
Luke: Then my father is truly dead.

 

It's a remnant from the original ESB screenplay dating back to October 24, 1978. It already has these dialogues between Vader and the Emperor, but at that stage Luke Skywalker had not yet become the son of Darth Vader (it was a last minute decision of Lucas but how much "last minute" I can't tell).

Essentially, the dialogue we got reflects that early stage of the screenplay - which understandably cries for a rationalization. ;-)

 

Ah, I see. I knew that Lucas came up with the idea of Vader being Luke's father during the writing process, but I didn't know this part. It's so interesting what we've done with that, however.