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Why Did The Council Believe The Exile Was A Wound In The Force?.

Discussion in 'Literature' started by snelson, Aug 14, 2010.

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  1. snelson

    snelson Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    it has always bugged me that vrook, kavar and zez kai ell accused her of being a wound when it was really kreia and darth nihilus. did the dark side cloud their perceptions.
     
  2. Charlemagne19

    Charlemagne19 Chosen One star 8

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    No, the Exile was also a wound in the Force.

    So was Malachor V.

    However, the Exile's Force Wound was probably healing if the Ithorian Force Adept's speech was anything to go by. In order to heal wounds in the Force, you need to become connected to large numbers of people and foster life on the barren surfaces of planets (ala what happened on Telos if you were a lightsider). The Exile, carrying around Malachor V's force wound, just needed time with her friends.

    It's just the Jedi Knighthood was too scared of the Exile's potential to abuse her Force Wound powers.
     
  3. dewback_rancher

    dewback_rancher Jedi Master star 4

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    In other words, it was a case of "OMG! There's a slight miniscule infintessimal chance she MIGHT POSSIBLY destroy the galaxy! KILL IT! KILL IT WITH FIRE!"

    Which I always found amusing, for some morbid reason. [face_laugh]
     
  4. DarthMRN

    DarthMRN Jedi Youngling star 3

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    And possibly becoming the death of the Force, somehow.

    EDIT: Beaten.
     
  5. Charlemagne19

    Charlemagne19 Chosen One star 8

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    I think the Jedi of KOTOR2 are the kind of people who'd protest the particle collider.

    :)

    But yes, the irony is that the Exile's Force Wound is the only thing that protected her against Darth Nihilus' power.
     
  6. snelson

    snelson Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    oh i see. that's why i believe the exile should sacrifice herself to save revan from the emperor and heal the wound. and yes i do believe revan returned but not the exile.
     
  7. dewback_rancher

    dewback_rancher Jedi Master star 4

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    My thoughts exactly. [face_laugh]
     
  8. Charlemagne19

    Charlemagne19 Chosen One star 8

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    On my end, the Exile is a character who deserves a happily ever after just as much.

    Not to be just treated as Revan's sidekick.
     
  9. Darth_Zandalor

    Darth_Zandalor Jedi Master star 4

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    The Jedi Council interpreted the Level Up system as the Exile feeding off of her victims, widening the wound. They refused to consider that her increased strength might have come from healing the wound, which was how Kreia interpreted it.
     
  10. Charlemagne19

    Charlemagne19 Chosen One star 8

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    Even if it was true, they also believed that the Exile was mind controlling his followers.

    His followers pretty much pooh-pahed that, though they obviously would.
     
  11. DarthMRN

    DarthMRN Jedi Youngling star 3

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    Well, she does mind control them. When story appropriate, at least. Keeping such a bunch of self-serving amoralists working together under her banner also points in that direction.
     
  12. Charlemagne19

    Charlemagne19 Chosen One star 8

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    I prefer to think she's just a natural leader.
     
  13. blackmyron

    blackmyron Chosen One star 7

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    Mical seemed to believe that, according to his dialogue with the Exile.
     
  14. Alpha-Red

    Alpha-Red 18X Hangman Winner star 7 VIP - Game Winner

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    The Exile also didn't seem to succumb to the Force Wound the way Nihilus did.
     
  15. Charlemagne19

    Charlemagne19 Chosen One star 8

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    According to Kreia, that's because the Exile abandoned her connection to the Force.

    Given we now know Nihilus was in a very messed up place emotionally and practicing EVIL Sith magic before he went on his planet eating spree, I'm not sure that's honestly the case. Kyp Durron was right on top of Carida when it exploded, yet he didn't become Darth Nihilus.

    I'm inclined to believe the Exile might have died from the severing of so many Force Bonds at once but I think Nihilus was just driven insane by it, rather than made into a supernatural evil. The whole Galactus thing was more the product of harnessing Malachor V's Sith knowledge combined with absorbing ungodly amounts of Dark Side energy.
     
  16. DarthMRN

    DarthMRN Jedi Youngling star 3

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    That's not how I remember it. Nihilus was described as the pinnacle of what the Trayus assassins could become in time. Who in turn learned their tricks from the Exile. A natural conclusion would be that if she continued on her level-up killing spree long enough, she too would become him. Her other side-effects are close enough to his for that to be a viable option.

    I would dig out all the relevant quotes from the game, but I honestly can't be arsed. The continued breakdown of EU continuity leaves me doubting the value of knowing stuff on such a detail level any more.
     
  17. Charlemagne19

    Charlemagne19 Chosen One star 8

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    "It's canon until George Lucas says he wants Ryloth in the daytime."

    I'm thinking of making that my signature.

    But no, Kreia pretty much seems to clearly believe that Nihilus became what he was because he refused to abandon the Force. It's what makes the Exile so interesting to her.

    At least it was to me. I could be wrong.
     
  18. Ulicus

    Ulicus Lapsed Moderator star 7 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    I think this thread is more of a subtopic of THIS ONE.
     
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