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Why Didn't GL Make Padme Die the Other Way

Discussion in 'Archive: Revenge of the Sith' started by SithMacqdor, May 7, 2005.

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  1. SithMacqdor

    SithMacqdor Jedi Youngling star 2

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    It's been said that Padme dies to easy in this movie. Meaning that the wounds inflicted by Anakin weren't fatal. But she dies in child birth perhaps of a broken heart.*Broken Heart understandable, but die ?

    Would the real mother of Princess Leia die so easily leaving 2 off spring.

    Why didnt GL make Padme die the other way from injuires inflicted by Anakin or better yet from the reference in ROTJ where she Leia her daughter tells Luke she remembers her mother being very beautiful but sad. Padme could have live a remainder short life in hiding raising Leia, while being sad thinking of Luke and Anakin.


    Did Padme die or gave up to easily in your view for this movie?

    This blunder could have easily been corrected in re-shots.

    Or Test audiences.

    your opinion

     
  2. ome

    ome Jedi Knight star 5

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    it's far more emotional this way...
     
  3. weezyslob

    weezyslob Jedi Youngling star 3

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    Honestly, yes, even though I have not seen the movie I personaly would have liked Padme to die at the hands of Anakin or later on after she raises Leia a bit, not of a broken heart, it really IS out of character for the strong willed Padme. She deserves a better death to me, but I guess her funeral scene will just add to the sadness of the movie and from pictures I've seen it's stunning visualy.
     
  4. Deeysew

    Deeysew Jedi Youngling star 4

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    To me it's for the sake of having a kidfriendly suicide probably.
     
  5. Celestial

    Celestial Jedi Padawan star 4

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    As Lucas would say... "That's not the story.....".
     
  6. weezyslob

    weezyslob Jedi Youngling star 3

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    Actualy, now that I think about it, her dying BECAUSE of childbirth seems like a better way than a broken heart as well.
     
  7. Arliss_

    Arliss_ Jedi Youngling star 1

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    i thought palps would kill her.or actually i thought earley on in the shooting of the movie that dooku would kill her.you know first he cuts anakins arm off, then he takes anakins wife from him.in which anakin kills him in rage and turns to the darkside.
     
  8. NICHOLAS_SKYWALKER

    NICHOLAS_SKYWALKER Jedi Youngling star 3

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    yes the hole borken heart idea is pretty lame and unrealistic. It would of been a lot better and cooler if she had just died because anakin chocked her.
     
  9. Malikail

    Malikail Jedi Padawan star 4

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    I don't like her death from the stand point of believability but i also don't like her character so it seems fitting to me that she gets a pathetic death.
     
  10. SithMacqdor

    SithMacqdor Jedi Youngling star 2

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    Exactly my point. Seems a given that Padme's strong will in TPM and AOTC. I mean come on guys/gals this is the same Padme that tells QuiGon she's going to Tattione with him and speaks before the Senate. "her faith is with her people" Right ?

    the same Padme that snaps Anakin out fo his grief of loosing his mom and going to rescue OB1.

    Padme loves the Republic more than and anything. And to leave her children at the hands of the Emperor just doesnt fit whats on her Resume.


    Have her die from wounds inflicted by Anakin is ok. But the driods determine she physically ok.But whats better her dying from sadness say on some remote planet in hiding, living as Bails House Maide or something while raising Leia in secret.

    A new born baby is not going to remember its mom being sad at child birth. Force or no force.

    And mothers over come great odds once a child is born. Screw a husband they say, thats my baby.

    Her death should have been more real and in tuned with her character and more important Leia's character.

    After all like mother, like daughter.

    Right ?

     
  11. Thena

    Thena Chosen One star 7

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    You know, if I were Padme and I saw all the galaxy and the Republic crumbling around me, with a mad, power-hungry dictator naming himself Emperor of a the new Empire, the Jedi being hunted down and killed, and my husband going from an idealistic and powerful Jedi Knight to the apprentice of the evil Emperor (who also happens to be a Sith Lord), well, I think I might lose the will to live, too. :(

    Besides, you couldn't have her die in between episodes 3 & 4, and you can't change the OT to have her survive into A New Hope and beyond.
     
  12. Loco_for_Lucas

    Loco_for_Lucas Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    I think it would have been far more poignant to have her years later from her injuries. Where she carried them with her, but her will let her live with them for so much longer, trying to stay alive for the sake of her daughter. That'd be far more effective, dramatically, and makes her tragic. She'd be living with the pain, both emotional and physical, for years rather than get the ticket out immediately.
     
  13. AmazingDM

    AmazingDM Jedi Youngling star 2

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    how does the way she dies coincide with what leia said in ep6?
     
  14. NeoBaggins

    NeoBaggins Jedi Master star 5

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    Actually, George started breaking down Padme's will and wit in Attack of the Clones. In TPM, Padme is similar to her future daughter, Liea. She's supposed to be strong-willed, intelligent, and ready to grab a blaster and give orders when necessary.

    In AOTC, Padme gives her last level-headed, reasonable, and strong-willed speach at the fireplace. Soon after, she becomes weak and witless at the speed of light. She gives Anakin some really good reasons as to why they shouldnt date and basically doesnt really know the guy. He tells her that he has slaughtered Women and Children and she marries him shortly afterwards. Whats wrong with her mental state? We know why Anakin is holding 10 year crushes, hes creepy. But why does Padme lose her mind and start doing stupid stuff?

    Now, to make her characters weakness come full circle, she will die... for NO reason. Women can die during a difficult childbirth, especially with twins, and real life "brokenheart syndrome" doesnt kill you. If your not going to write in a defined death, at least the childbirth is realistic. This sounds like something that happens in a Disney cartoon.
     
  15. JediNdaCity

    JediNdaCity Jedi Youngling star 3

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    I agree with what the poster, Princess Tina, said above, it seems Padme is slowly losing faith and the will to go on through the course of the film and by the time she hits the table and gives birth, she is just too worn out, burned out and weary to go on. It's not unrealistic at all. She is strong willed, yes. But she is also human and when you have fought for so long to try to make things right and then they all go belly up anyway, including the love of your life, you would lose the will to live also. People have got to remember, in AOTC, Anakin changed Padme and brought something out of her that she had been trying to supress and once it was opened up, she couldn't stop it. So, her emotional state is pretty fragile by Ep. 3.
    Talk about skating on very thin ice and Anakin just kicks a major hole through and lets her fall.
    The parallel GL is trying to draw here obviously is how she dealt with her romance as opposed to how Leia dealt with hers. Leia took a whole different approach in dealing with Han just as her brother does in dealing with the darkside. When Han is frozen and skirted away just as she falls in love with him, she could've easily turned into an emotional wreck had it not been for the support of her friends helping her through it. She dusted herself and devised a plan to get him back and that she did. If you watch the Carbonite scene, it vaguely resembles the Vader on the table scene in how he rises in a billow of smoke, both trapped inside metal. Only Han had to capacity to be set free, Vader didn't.
     
  16. Uric-Qel-Droma

    Uric-Qel-Droma Jedi Padawan star 4

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    look, for me, i think its the whole undercurrent from when she asks Obi Wan "you're going to kill him arent you?" and that is followed by her confrontation with anakin on mustafar..

    it plays out well for my liking..
     
  17. tavis12

    tavis12 Jedi Youngling star 2

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    I think it's perfect. The Skywalkers are two selfish kids that should never been allowed to copulate because they didn't have the maturity to raise children. The best thing for Luke and Leia is to as far away from those two losers as possible.

    *I have a broken heart, so I'm going to give up; I don't care about my children*

    *No one likes me; I should be the boss; I'll just kill everyone, then they'll see.*

    See, two selfish losers.
     
  18. Arliss_

    Arliss_ Jedi Youngling star 1

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    ^^^^^^ im under a bantha poo doo
     
  19. tavis12

    tavis12 Jedi Youngling star 2

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    Arliss buddy, I missed you. I was wondering when you would grace us with your insightful, thought provoking opinions again.
     
  20. DARTHGAGE

    DARTHGAGE Jedi Youngling

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    Through out the OT leia did not even appear to have force powers, but if she can remember her mother, right after she was born doesn't that make her seem even more powerful in the force. That actually is a statement to me that GL shows that there powers may have been equal but in different ways.
     
  21. G-FETT

    G-FETT Chosen One star 7

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    She should have died due to what Anakin does to her. Nevermind all of this broken heart stuff, which is totally out of character for such a strong woman-This will be the weakest part of ROTS for me.
     
  22. damolay

    damolay Jedi Youngling star 1

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    Who's to say that she doesnt die at the hands of Vader.


    SPOILERS

    The power of the dark side of the force isnt just physical, but the fact that he Vader strangles her, a connection between the two is being strangled aswell. The effects of the force choke go deeper, the dark side of the force must pervade her spirit aswell.

    I approve of the clever parallel editing where we see her losing breath as Anakin gains his first.

    Ooo.. and our first look thru Vaders helmet vision, creepy.

    Creepiest image/feeling I get from the whole film would have to be Vaders expression upon the shores of the lava river where he's desperately trying to get up even though Obi Wan's sliced him up good. Closeup's on his eyes changing colour, hsi screams, and Obi-Wan just looking on, kind of wanting to help, feeling a little guilty, but leaving Vader to burn like a crisp. Ahh, its great. How dark Star Wars should really be.

    Can't wait to see it again.
     
  23. PMT99

    PMT99 Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    "She should have died due to what Anakin does to her."

    If that were to happen, then Luke and Leia would've died too which will completely destroy the entire OT continuity and plus, it would have been better if Padme had remained alive for 3-4 years so that Leia would have her memories of her because let's face it, nobody can possibly remember their own births regardless if they even have the Force (Luke sure as hell couldn't).
     
  24. Darth001

    Darth001 Jedi Youngling star 1

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    No it wouldn't have been better fot Padme to have live for 3-4 years before dying because that would mean that she would have to die in between ROTS and ANH off screen and thats just wouldn't work for a major character to die off screen. For the films to work, she had to be shown to die in ROTS.
     
  25. NeoBaggins

    NeoBaggins Jedi Master star 5

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    Breaking News!!!

    After being force-choked, an Imperial officer who had recently mocked Vader, later died of a brokenheart. Also, in an unrelated incident, Lando Calrissian died after being force-choke-checked after questioning Vaders deal alterations. It has yet to be determined if either man was pregnant.

     
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