Why didn't Jango tell the seperatists of the Clone Army?

My girlfriend and I watched episode II (on DVD, not terrestrial) yesterday. Later on I asked what she thought of it. She liked it but then said, "I don't get one bit, though. Dooku and the seperatists were suprised by the fact that the Jedis had a clone army to defend the republic. Jango is the template for the clone army but he is hanging out with the baddies at the end of the film. Why was he even on Geonosis and why didn't he tell them the fact he *knew* an army for the republic was being created?"

I was a wee-bit baffled. I came up with the kinda-lame answer 'maybe he just keeps his nose out of things and does the job he's paid to do'. But this idea has not entered my mind once since the film was released 7 years ago.
Anyone got a better answer than me?


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Dooku is merely pretending to be surprised. Dooku hired Jango in the first place.

 

No kidding. Orn, Arawn is right...Dooku knew. It makes perfect sense, when you remember that the entire Clone Wars were a complete and total farce. A sham. EVERYONE was working for Palpatine, Jedi, clones, Separatists...and Dooku knew it. Count Dooku was in on the galactic joke. Dooku didn't know the entirety of Palpatine's punchline, such as his eventual replacement by Anakin Skywalker as Palpatine's apprentice, but, Count Dooku certainly would have known about Kamino and the clones. It would have been impossible for him not to.

 

Dooku already knew about the Clone Army. When he meets up with Sidious on Corusant, he says everything is going according to plan. Now if Dooku did not know about the Clone Army, he would've said everything is not going according to plan.

Since Jango was following Dooku's orders, Dooku probably told him not to mention the clones.

In ROTS, Dooku even knew Sidious was Chancellor Palpatine, that's why he looked so surprised when Palpatine told Anakin to kill him.

 

I don't think Jango gave a rats arse about anything but money and Boba Fett. So as I see it, he had no reason to tell them.

 

I agree with that. Dooku knew the deal already and telling the rest of them would be a bit of a conflict of interest since he is the source of the clone army.

 

Jango: "I was hired by a man called Tyranus on one of the moons of Bogden..."

Darth Sidious, to Count Dooku: "Welcome home, Lord Tyranus."

I'd say that just about sums it up.

 

Yeah, I think Dooku just told Jango to keep his mouth shut about the clones as part of the whole deal.

 

Jango was working for Dooku, who of course was - as several posters have said - was in on the joke. All the work the Jango did for the Separatists went through Dooku (as can be seen with Gunray whining to Dooku that Padmé still isn't dead). So, why should he tell them?

He was on retainer for Dooku and probably didn't bother at all what he really was up to.

 

This thread made me think about some stuff...

First, does Obi-Wan never attempt to put 2 and 2 together? He meets and fights with the template of the republic clone army, who he follows to the separatist HQ and turns out he wanted to murder Padme. Does he just brush all of that away as a coincidence and doesn't wonder that a higher force used Jango for both separatist and republic purposes? And yeah, what the original poster asked, Jango doesn't tell Dooku because Dooku knows, but doesn't that cross Obi-Wan's mind? Or does he believe that Jango was on just business in Geonosis and would be smart enough not to mention the clone army to them?

And when the clone army arrives in Geonosis, doesn't the Separatist council ever notice the resemblance to Jango? I know it can be argued they never really have the chance to check them out up and close but still, would they think "oh look the republic has an army as big as our droid army and they all consist of the same people with Mandalorian-like outfits"?

 

I agree with this. The clone army was according to the plan, and Dooku was in on it.

 

I agree with what has been said above. Jango was hired by Dooku who knew that Palpatine was playing both sides, therefore he wasn't holding any information from the Separatists.

 

Those who say Dooku knew are most likely right. However, I like to think Jango who was a Bounty Hunter and didn't care who wanted him to do what as long as he got paid. Was playing both sides.

Kind of like Mac in Indian Jones & KOCS. Jango was playing both sides to a fiddle until he died and took it to his death. But like I said I only like to think that.

 

I've always had a problem with the Separatist leaders reaction to the clonetroopers. Its true, during the battle of Geonosis the leaders never get a good look at the opposing forces under the masks, but eventually you have to believe they captured a clonetrooper and saw that it was indeed Jango Fett. Once that happened I can only believe there was some hellraising at the next meeting about why that is so. Would they believe Dooku coincidentally hired a guy being used to build the Republic army to kill Senator Amidala for Gunray. You have to figure there are millions of Bounty Hunters in the galaxy and he chose that one?

I would also have to suspect the separatists would learn the Galactic Senate knew nothing of this army being created which begs the question of who hired this guy 10 years ago? In Gunrays mind, something rather significant happened 10 years ago. That being his arrest for invading Naboo with a droid army. The Sith Lord who had him make the army bailed on him. Is Darth Sidious behind the clone army?

But then comes the complicated part. Dooku claims he knows nothing about this army. At that point from what Dooku has said its fair to say Gunray does not know he is a Sith Lord. But then when Gunray leaves and their separatists still hovering around, Dooku brings up his master several times to Poggle the Lesser specifically. He even says hes taking the death star plans to him. So what is going on?

I can maybe rationalize the idea that Gunray suspects Sidious and then is told by Dooku that he is in fact a Sith Apprentice of Lord Sidious and thus in ROTS Gunray is fully aware of this master plot and that he and his cronies are not meant to win via the droid army. But they go along with the war because they are promised peace in the end.

However when thinking all of this out, there is too much left off screen to assume that is what happened. So on screen we're just left with plot holes the size of asteroids.

 

^Glad I'm not the only one who noticed that.

About Nute Gunray knowing it, I also wonder when he was told that Sidious is Dooku's master, because in ROTS the Separatist council gets a transmission from Sidious, right? So we can assume either way that Grievous and the council was told about the plan and they were promised power in the Empire, but it's also possible Gunray forgave Sidious and they are just thinking they are fighting to crush the republic and make a new order altogether. Maybe he was told Sidious is responsible for Gunray still being the head of Trade Federation in spite of his arrest so he has no reason to hold grudge?

About Jango, I'm still more concerned about Obi-Wan's reaction. Jango is given the role he had only to give a reason why Obi-Wan would find the Separatist army and also to give a backstory to Boba. Otherwise I really don't get why the Jedi don't start to think into this, Yoda wants Obi-Wan to capture Jango and bring him back, Mace hears it as well but in the end he decapitates Jango, but only because he has to be stopped or only because he reaches a conclusion about his involvement?

The template of the Republic army leads Obi-Wan to the Techno Union droid foundries, I think the only logical explanation would be that Obi-Wan thinks Jango is a double agent only because he wants to do his job and Obi-Wan is quickly forgotten about that when Dooku plants doubt about the Senate in his mind and he gets more caught up in that.