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Lit Why didn't Palpatine ever try to use Abeloth?

Discussion in 'Literature' started by darth fluffy, Sep 25, 2013.

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  1. darth fluffy

    darth fluffy Jedi Master star 2

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    As powerful as he was, there's a fairly good chance he would have known about her, so why didn't he attempt to exploit her power somehow? It seems like he would.
     
  2. Iron_lord

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    I was under the impression that only the Killiks really knew about her back then- and as far as he knew, the Killiks were extinct.
     
  3. Revanfan1

    Revanfan1 Force Ghost star 6

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    Abeloth would've blown up in Palpatine's face with no Grand Master Luke to stop her.
     
  4. Alixen

    Alixen Jedi Master star 4

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    Indeed. I think as powerful as he was, Abeloth is not a being to be harnessed, and even if he knew about her that he was wise enough to realise that.
     
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  5. Vialco

    Vialco Force Ghost star 5

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    A revelation that cost the people of Kesh most dearly.
     
  6. purplerain

    purplerain Jedi Knight star 4

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    Palpatine kept Abeloth imprisoned because he doesn't want anything more powerful than himself running around.

    This thread reminds me of a fanfic I read in which Palpatine drinks from the Font of Power and bathes in the Pool of Knowledge and becomes something far worse than Abeloth.
     
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  7. Zeta1127

    Zeta1127 Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    Abeloth who?
     
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  8. VanishingReality

    VanishingReality Jedi Knight star 3

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    That works, considering he even leaves alone the Witches of Dathomir.
     
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  9. snelson

    snelson Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    abeloth is the villain in fate of the jedi, she was a ghost she killed callista and akanah.
     
  10. Cynical_Ben

    Cynical_Ben Force Ghost star 4

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    Because if she was free when he was around, he probably would have taken one look at her, only to throw up his hands and say "Kark this" and have the planet she was on nuked and then blown to smithereens with the Death Star to keep the whole mess from happening. Palpatine knew better than to let badly-written plot devices run around loose.
     
  11. Zeta1127

    Zeta1127 Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    There is more to my "question" than meets the eye...
     
  12. BedlamSpirit

    BedlamSpirit Jedi Knight star 1

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    Palpatine did not even try to use The Ones who were FAR MORE tractable than Abeloth, what makes you think he would even consider a beign stronger and less tractable if he can't even deal with The Ones?

    A better question would be, why didn't he drank from the Fonts? Perhaps he would lose sanity. But actually it is surprising that for all his knowledgement and resources, he seemed either oblivious or too afraid about harnessing power sources which were greater than the Empire and his own power.

    He apparently did not know about the fonts (regardless the fact that apparently you did not even had to physically go there to transform, but travel there using a special meditation), or the Valley of Jedi which had the potential to turn you into a Godlike being (yes, capital G) far worse than Abeloth. Or the Bedlam Spirits apparently he never tried to mess with them. The Father implies there is a way a physical being can ascend to become like The Ones but it seems Palpatine never researched on it.

    It is incredible, with all his resources he could have succeeded easily. Palpatine is the strongest among average villains, your typical dictator, but it seems that when it came to outright god-like powers in the tier of soloing by yourself entire civilizations (like The Emprie and Republic) the guy was either oblivious or too afraid to try them. Palpatine is your typical military dictator, not a cosmic horror.
     
  13. Iron_lord

    Iron_lord 51x Wacky Wed/4x Two Truths/29x H-man winner star 10 VIP - Game Winner

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    I'm wondering if he ever learned about The Ones in the first place.

    Arden Lyn knew only what little Xendor had told her about them- and I'm not sure if Anakin ever told him what happened on Mortis.
     
  14. BedlamSpirit

    BedlamSpirit Jedi Knight star 1

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    Couldn't Anakin had returned to Mortis? I mean he knew the location right and as the chosen one he had access to the monolith didn't he? It was hinted that the full potential of the Chosen One was to become the replacement of The Father, I always wondered why Vader didn't tried his shot there, after becoming Palpatine's bitch there is not much he could lose.
     
  15. Iron_lord

    Iron_lord 51x Wacky Wed/4x Two Truths/29x H-man winner star 10 VIP - Game Winner

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    That's an interesting question- was there some memory loss in the episode that might explain it?
     
  16. Jedifirefly5

    Jedifirefly5 Jedi Knight star 2

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    Palps idea was to get rid of competition. Not get someone that could get rid of him.
     
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  17. BedlamSpirit

    BedlamSpirit Jedi Knight star 1

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    The Father erase his memories but only from the future, nowhere as far as I remember was affected his knowledgement of Mortis.
     
  18. DigitalMessiah

    DigitalMessiah Chosen One star 6

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    How would he return to Mortis? The monolith was gone.
     
  19. DarthJenari

    DarthJenari Jedi Master star 4

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    Yeah this is all under the presumption that Palpatine somehow knew about Mortis and Abeloth. Despite his intellect and planning he doesn't know everything, and he can hardly be faulted for that.
     
  20. purplerain

    purplerain Jedi Knight star 4

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    In fact, Yoda told Luke about The Ones on Dagobah.
    That answers the question. Look what happened to Abeloth. Palpatine may also have wanted to stay human.
     
  21. Allana_Rey

    Allana_Rey Jedi Master star 4

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    Did Palps even know who she was?
     
  22. BedlamSpirit

    BedlamSpirit Jedi Knight star 1

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    Well, he apparently didn't knew about the Valley of the Jedi, which going by the description it ***** even on Abeloth and The Ones, so yes is more likely that Palpatine had not knowlegement about the god-like powers, perhaps they were too esoteric even for him.
     
  23. DigitalMessiah

    DigitalMessiah Chosen One star 6

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    I like the level of power one individual could accumulate in Star Wars with all the EU material if they knew about it all: bota, pyronium, lignan ore, the Valley of the Jedi -- is there anything that distinguishes it from other sites of Thought Bombs, if any exist? -- Force Walking...
     
  24. BedlamSpirit

    BedlamSpirit Jedi Knight star 1

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    Force walking? As far as I remember it didn't did much, you could actually go to the past and leave an impression, but you couldn't change it. Albeit you could in a very loose way pre-destine events.
     
  25. Sable_Hart

    Sable_Hart Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    I like to think that Palpatine constructed the Maw Installation for just that reason.
     
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