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Why didn't they just have the Seventh Sister be Barriss Offee

Discussion in 'Star Wars TV- Completed Shows' started by jamminjedi23, Jun 12, 2017.

  1. jamminjedi23

    jamminjedi23 Jedi Master star 5

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    With it now looking like Rebels is going to finish up without us finding out exactly what happened to Barriss Offee I'm wondering why they just didn't have the Seventh Sister be her. The Seventh Sister was an obvious stand in for Barriss. Same species. About the same age even.

    I know people have mentioned that Filoni has said that Bariss's story is not finished (though I havn't seen any articles where he said this) I still wonder why he just didn't want to finish her story up in Rebels. Did he think that including Barriss would just seem forced? Did they feel like her inclusion into Rebels would make it seem like TCW characters were taking over the show?

    In anycase now it looks like we are going to have to depend on the new Vader comic to tell us what happened to her. And if she doesn't appear in the new Vader series we may never know exactly what happened to her character.
     
  2. theraphos

    theraphos Jedi Knight star 2

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    If I remember correctly, the original planned ending for her character was committing suicide in her cell. It may be that they are going back and forth over using that ending after all, but need a more appropriate place to reveal it than a Disney cartoon. (I don't have any particular proof that they're considering it again, but it would explain the current state of things.)
     
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  3. Barris Offee is not evil she just did not agree that the Jedi were generals of war instead of being guaridanes of peace
     
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  4. Blackhole E Snoke

    Blackhole E Snoke Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    Barriss Offee went to the dark side, but she was fighting against what the Republic was doing and becoming, the Empire. Why would she suddenly appear in Rebels fighting for the Empire? It wouldn't have made sense.
     
  5. theraphos

    theraphos Jedi Knight star 2

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    Turning someone into an unwilling/unwitting suicide bomber and killing a large number of Jedi, military personnel, and civilians just to voice your dislike of violence, then letting your supposed friend take the fall for it up until you get caught, is actually pretty darn evil, sorry. It's also completely backwards and crazy.

    I like Barriss, but she gave up her "good person" card a while ago. (But yes, I agree with Blackhole that it still wouldn't make a whole lot of sense for her to join up with the Empire just because she's gone to the dark side.)
     
  6. TheAvengerButton

    TheAvengerButton Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Because it wouldn't make much sense. As others have pointed out, Barriss wouldn't have likely joined the Empire.
     
  7. DANNASUK

    DANNASUK Force Ghost star 7

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    As others have said, would not have made any sense.
     
  8. Did not you hear his speech in Clone Wars? She was right about the Republic and the Jedi
    Anyway Filoni ruined his character I can not buy an Evil Barris Offee
     
  9. Darth_Voider

    Darth_Voider Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    It would be interesting if she appears in the new Vader comic as a Dark Jedi who fights the Empire.
     
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  10. theraphos

    theraphos Jedi Knight star 2

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    I'm going to tell you a secret: if someone has some internal reason for committing an extremely evil act rather than doing so entirely at random just for fun, it is still an evil act.

    I don't know why SW fandom has so much trouble with this.
     
  11. Ahsoka's Tano

    Ahsoka's Tano Force Ghost star 7

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    I have the simplest answer that anyone can think of: the Inquisitors were always supposed to be expendable and Barriss was too popular to have a rather anticlimactic death.
     
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  12. Ithorians

    Ithorians Jedi Master star 4

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    I would imagine that Barriss Offee was doing what she did because she wanted to prevent the rise of the Empire. In that light, to bring her back in the role of Inquisitor, an elite agent of the Sith particularly renowned for their loyalty, would mean to dwell a little too much into her past. I imagine the idea was to keep the information about the Inquisitorius at a minimum at this point.

    She still could show up in the new Vader comic; she could be a dark Jedi, indeed, or perhaps, if she was still alive and imprisoned by the time of Order 66, she died at the hands of the Grand Inquisitor as a test of his loyalty to the Sith...

    In any case, I hope we do get a story about her fate.
     
  13. TheMoldyCrow

    TheMoldyCrow Jedi Master star 3

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    I guess having Ahsoka, Rex, Gregor, Wolffe, Maul, Bo Katan, Hondo, Cham Syndulla, Saw Gerrera, Numa, and General Kalani show up in Rebels was fine, but having Bariss show up would have been a step too far.

    Oh, and it would have made no sense for her to be an Inquisitor either.
     
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  14. MrMojoRisin

    MrMojoRisin Jedi Master star 4

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    ^^This. She was evil. No doubt about it.
     
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  15. V-2

    V-2 Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    This, and...
    ..a touch of this. 'Small galaxy' is a problem in this franchise, almost any decision to limit it is a good thing. Credulity has been stretched far enough with all the PT/CW/OT cameos... They earn a cheap pop, a tiny spoke in ratings maybe, but perhaps to the detriment of original character and plot development imho.
     
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  16. Maythe14thBeWithYou

    Maythe14thBeWithYou Jedi Master star 4

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    I want to see Bariss but I think a lot could be done w/her actually. I think she could appear in other media though.
     
  17. Darth_Accipiter

    Darth_Accipiter Force Ghost star 6

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    I think we're ignoring the obvious, it was because Dave thought it would be funny to have Freddie fight Sarah.
     
  18. Ahsoka's Tano

    Ahsoka's Tano Force Ghost star 7

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  19. fett 4

    fett 4 Chosen One star 5

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    In this case I would argue the worst case is Rex/Gregor and Wolfe, how did they get there Chips out and avoid Order 66. Why did none of the other Clones do that. None of this has even been attempted to be explained. Now admittedly it has no real relevance to Rebels as they aren't the main cast but if you aren't going to address this, you shouldn't bring it up in the first place.
     
  20. V-2

    V-2 Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    Small galaxy can cheapen established characters and continuity too, yes. In fairness to the clones I do recall a line or two describing that they removed their chips. I don't like the chip plot anyway, the whole TCW clone whitewash was frustrating.

    Just to be clear, I'm not against saga and EU characters appearing in Rebels per se, it's always fun to see and hear the old gang, and some characters are so in the thick of the plot that they almost need to be acknowledged (Palpatine, Tarkin, Vader, Mothma, Organa, etc). I'm just wary of detrimental fanservice and needless convolution.
     
  21. PCCViking

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    I believe they're married: Sarah Michelle Gellar voiced the Seventh Sister and she's married (or at least in a relationship with) Freddie Prinze Jr. (voice of Kanan)
     
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  22. Ahsoka's Tano

    Ahsoka's Tano Force Ghost star 7

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    Oh I didn't even think of that.
     
  23. MrDarth0

    MrDarth0 Jedi Master star 4

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    I could see Barriss joining the Inquisitorius as the only option left to her after the establishment of the Empire.

    Basically something along the lines of Palpatine/Vader/Grand Inquisitor coming to her cell and giving her an option, either join us or die. Of course, there would be the obligatory brutal torture, breaking of spirit and some dark side training to make sure she's loyal.
     
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  24. Vialco

    Vialco Force Ghost star 5

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    Tell that to Letta Turmond, who was Force Choked to death, to the innocent clone troopers on guard in the Republic Military Base that were cut down mercilessly, and the Jedi, Temple Workers, and Clone Troopers that died in the bomb explosion that Barriss helped set off.

    If what Barriss did isn't evil, then what do you call it?
     
  25. Dags

    Dags Jedi Grand Master star 3

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    Two quick points:

    1) Barriss isn't a TCW character, she's a PT character so having her appear in Rebels would've been fine - even though to be fair she did a lot more in TCW than the films so it's easy to forget her PT origins
    2) Whether the logic for Barris being an Inquisitor makes sense or not, cinematically and from a narrative perspective it would've been fantastic to see and I for one was hoping it would be the case

    So does Barriss turning against the Jedi elevate her into what would now be called The Lost 21?
     
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