ST WHY do fans dislike or outright hate the ST?

It's almost like fans see Star Wars not really as films but like a sacred religion.



Please let me know if I'm mistaken.

 

If not wanting to see my childhood film heroes portrayed as beaten down losers is the criteria, then guilty as charged.

 

Honestly, I see them as nothing more than films... which is why it's blatant that the ST is just a retread of the OT, but done worse.

 

I do NOT see it that way. I'm a Christian. To do that would be blasphemy, for anyone and everyone.

I think the movies aren't well done.

 

Sure criticized them as films but I'm referring to the fandom seeing Star Wars as sacred and love the lore perhaps more than the films themselves. I don't mean Star Wars fans are religious to the films literally but it feels that way to me.

Sure criticize how the OT characters were handled but I just think fans take things to far. It's like someone destroyed your religion.

What happened with the Catholic Church may happen to Star Wars.

 

Star Wars isn't for OT fans or PT fans. Star Wars is for everyone and any interpretation should be valid.

 

There’s lots of reasons why fans dislike the ST… mainly because they are really poor films in my opinion, but it’s not because they are viewed as a ‘sacred religion’, but primarily it’s because fans have a deep emotional connection to the characters and stories, just like the fans of The Lord of the Rings, James Bond, Harry Potter etc. have… and this is heightened because most fans of Star Wars fell in love with them as children, and as such have probably spent most of their lives loving Star Wars in some form. The other thing is that where something like James Bond has always played loose with its continuity, Star Wars (for the first 6 films) adhered very closely to an aesthetic, and a single creative vision, that’s cultivated a desire from fans to see that continuity retained… and which is why fans probably see Rogue One as being the best Disney era SW film to date.

 

I’m sure there’s a more scholarly way to describe it but simply put stories are a big deal to humans, and always have been. It’s one of the few things that transcends all cultures everywhere. So when you take what happens to be a lot of people’s favorite story and do the worst possible thing you can to a story(give it an unsatisfactory ending), you’re going to generate some extremely negative feelings. It only gets worse when you take into account the circumstances that produced such a disaster, such as the original creator’s work being thrown out and rushed deadlines in the name of corporate greed.

 

I'm probably the only one in this thread but i quite liked the ST.

 

I liked the Sequel Trilogy as well

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I dislike it mostly because of TFA. The whole ST setup introduced in that film is bland and unimaginative. Nothing really speaks to me like it did in the I-VI saga. The characters and their motivations don't interest me, the rebels vs. Empire dynamic is a more cartoonish retread of the OT, the visuals and settings are mundane, and even the action scenes and sound design are nothing special. I think it's the worst of the series by some margin, and pretty much tanked the ST before VIII and IX even had a chance to do that themselves.

 

Sacred religion? Nah. It's pretty simple stuff. They're just bad movies. I'm not sure why TLJ/ST fans still - 4 years later - cannot fathom nor understand why other fans dislike or hate these ... movies.

 

I like the ST better than the PT, by a wide margin. I agree with most of the criticisms already posted in this thread, but at least the ST had characters who were likeable (sometimes) and had personality. I didn't like or care about the PT characters except for QGJ, so after he was gone the rest of the trilogy fell flat. With the ST, I was still rooting for the characters to do the right thing and succeed, even when they did dumb things, I still cared.

The only SW movie that comes anywhere close to matching the OT is R1; those 4 are in the lead by 12 parsecs, maybe 14.

 

I just don’t think they’re good films. And that’s independent of the fact that they’re Star Wars films.

 

Did Rian Johnson start this thread?

 

Yeah. I think most would agree that Rogue One is of a much higher quality than the ST. I know lots of folks who like the ST that feel it goes without saying that RO is better.

 

Not all SW fans hate the ST. Not all SW fans hate the PT. And not all SW fans love the OT. Star Wars fans are not monolithic in their opinions.

 

Yeah RO is better I agree. It just feels fans see Star Wars itself as sacred like a religion. It's like if a new Bible somehow happen but made Jesus a hobo. It's attachment to GL's Star Wars and that you can't retcon establish rules like a religion.

They're at the end of the day just films and some of good, some great and some are bad. But fans lose their minds when establish stuff is change because Star Wars means more to them than just films it's almost psychology like Christians see the Bible as more than just an ancient book. It's their life.

 

Yes fans have vastly different opinions and that's great!

 

If SW was sacred like a religion, than SW fans wouldn't be critical or hateful of it. They'd worship it no matter. Cuz that's how religion works.

 

Many Christians denomination disagree and have different interpretations but I see your point.

 

I don't think SW fans mind change, as long as it's good. Empire was very, very different from ANH. But it worked imo. If someone likes the ST, then I am happy for them. But saying there is something wrong with older fans because some may not care for the ST, well RJ said that and it didn't go over very well.

 

Nothing wrong with older fans it's just ST in reality wasn't made for them. It was just made for casual fans. Those who don't obsessed over the lore.