JCC Why do people like Marilyn Monroe

This crap is in my face every day, but I'm really wondering it today. She was a floozy, a fake blonde, looked like she ate more cheetoes than britney spears post breakdown, average face, average acting/singing talent, made some inspirational quotes then negated them all by ODing or some crap like that. Why is this someone that people idolize.

And FTR I totally support the other over hyped women like Audrey Hepburn etc etc. They make sense. MM does not.

 

Because back then sex symbols had curves. Now anorexia is in.

 

agree. 100%

 

I don't know why. I guess she's just not my type. Also don't get Audrey but Katherine Hepburn...

 

If Elton John made a song about her how can she be wrong?

 

Clearly you

1. Didn't read the OP
2. Don't comprehend that people have different views on what's sexually attractive
3. Are stupid enough to refer to a visual body type as a mental disorder

 

Okay, Paul, you win.

 

She died before her fortieth birthday. That's why people like her.

 

1. She was hot
2. She died young

 

I guess she was interesting in a "whoa, she has issues" kind of way-- well, if My Week with Marilyn had any truth to it.

 

misogyny + nostalgia. she combines two american pastimes in one convenient package

hey dp4m getting down on petite girls for being "anorexic" just as gross and misogynistic as calling more voluptuous women "fat" - one more way of objectifying women and attempting to squeeze their bodies into "acceptable" and "unacceptable" boxes based on your male personal preference. in fact it has even worse specific content because, as Sith-Lord-Gunray points out, it directly and manifestly assigns a mental disorder to someone for having, in your opinion, a less-than-ideal bodytype

in any case, there's certainly no call for the kind of offensive and despicable comparisons you throw around. calling a woman who on this board "paul" is the posting equivalent of calling a jew "hitler"

 

she was very beautiful. kind, but sad. why are you asking me this?

 

I think rogue worded that much more successfully than me.

 

Some Like It Hot

 

He has his moments.

 

blame it on the aa-aa-aa-aa-aalcohol

 

When did I say I was down on petite girls?

I said "anorexia is in," because most of what we see in mass media is airbrushed BS designed to accentuate making naturally thin women even skinnier or making normal women of all shapes and sizes not their natural shapes and sizes (aka "thinner").

If you'd like to take that as a blanket assault on women, go right ahead, but there is a difference between women who are naturally small (either in stature or weight) and are healthy and what media feeds us for consumption.

Also, as shocking as it would appear, the show Smash actually has some decent insights into Marilyn Monroe in some of the backstage discussions on how to write / portray Marilyn in the show.

 

T&A, Amy. T and A.

 

Obviously you have never seen any of her movies. The way she lights up the scene in anything she's in is sorting to behold.

And, Some Like It Hot is very, very funny.

 

I find it hilarious when extremely fat people use the "curves" excuse. They don't seem to understand that a curve (circle, ball, whatever) is not the same as curves in plural.
But that's got more to do with women using MM as an excuse to weigh 300kg than MM herself.


(And before anyone screams about me calling MM fat, that's not what I'm saying.)

 

That's the whole point. Instead of saying "thinness (or even skinniness) is in," which would suggest you were talking about a body type, you said "anorexia is in," which suggests you are talking about a psychological disorder. The latter is offensive, in the context you used it in.

 

However, and I'm loathe to associate with the manner or methodology of dp's posts, I believe what he was trying to achieve in a fairly ham-fisted way was to say that society considered a fuller-figured woman more attractive back then, whereas society has now created the unrealistic, unsustainable and unhealthy "super-thin" image for women to destroy their self-esteem and health in the pursuit of.

But, I agree that MM is overhyped. She is, if nothing else, a brand now - like (cli)Che Guevara or Elvis, her imagery is iconic and sells regardless of the facts surrounding her. Or perhaps in spite so, I'm not sure.

 

Because no one is ever allowed to use hyperbole.

 

She may have had curves, but one thing you gotta remember: Women's clothing sizes were done up in a different way back then, so she necessary wouldn't be considered plus-sized by modern standards.

That's how I heard it.