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Why does Grevious still have a bunch of internal organs?

Discussion in 'Prequel Trilogy' started by DARTHLINK, Mar 20, 2011.

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  1. DARTHLINK

    DARTHLINK Force Ghost star 4

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    This comic raises a valid question. If Grevious is a cyborg, why does he still need internal organs? Do cyborgs need them? Or was this just a way for Lucas to have Obi kill the guy?
     
  2. timmoishere

    timmoishere Force Ghost star 6

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    Same reason Vader still needed them. He was a living being encased in machinery.
     
  3. DARTHLINK

    DARTHLINK Force Ghost star 4

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    But I thought the only thing left of Grevious was his face? Vader still had a body (though badly burnt).
     
  4. Caleb89sw

    Caleb89sw Jedi Master star 1

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    I always assumed it was because he was still partically organic. He probably still needed a heart, lungs, etc. to keep his face and brain healthy and functioning properly, you know, to keep his cells alive.
     
  5. Alexrd

    Alexrd Chosen One star 6

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    And his internal organs.
     
  6. DARTHLINK

    DARTHLINK Force Ghost star 4

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    That's an oddly specific injury. Looose everything but the face and internal organs? I find it hard to believe...
     
  7. DarthBoba

    DarthBoba Manager Emeritus star 9 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Option A, the original storyline, was that Grievous was severely injured in a ship crash and the Seppies cut off what was still attached and stuffed the rest into his suit.

    Option B, the current Grievous story, is that he's willingly undergone body replacement to make himself be able to kill Jedi and the organs that are left are what his brain needs to survive.
     
  8. FalorWindrider

    FalorWindrider Jedi Knight star 4

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    Option C, the Retcon: Option A leads into Option B: Grievous suffers a crash and loses most of his body to horrific injuries. He decides to get a mechanical body capable of standing against Jedi.
     
  9. jedislayer5000

    jedislayer5000 Jedi Youngling star 1

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    how the hell would he have a face with functioning eyes etc if he had no organs lol, it would be a shriveled gray corpse inside there, of course he needs organs
     
  10. Loupgarou

    Loupgarou Jedi Knight star 3

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    Well in real life we can make artificial hearts and i think even lungs, however cumbersome they may be. In star wars land, especially prequel star wars, i'd expect there to be far more ergonomic versions of these. Really, the only thing he'd need is his brain to stay alive in the GFFA.

    I agree with the original poster, it isn't very logical, if he purposefully upgraded his body. Darth Vader has a suit to keep him alive so it's only what he needs, Grievous has it as an upgrade so it should have that weakness removed.

    And Darths and Droids rocks! I love Grievous Valorum so much.

    Though purely within Darths and droids, there's an issue there they can't avoid. Their Grievous thinks machines are better than organics in every possible way, why would he ever admit that anything organic has properties greater than a machine version?
     
  11. Darth_Nub

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    If you still had working organs that could be incorporated into whatever cybernetic setup was required to keep you alive, wouldn't you want to keep them?

    Besides, I thought that TCW established that Grievous hates droids. He'd probably want to hang onto whatever was left of his old body to the very end of its lifespan.
     
  12. DarthBoba

    DarthBoba Manager Emeritus star 9 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    The old Star Wars Visionairies comic established that as well; it's also in Labyrinth of Evil.
     
  13. DARTH_DEEZY

    DARTH_DEEZY Jedi Knight star 1

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    cyborg:a bionic human...cybernetic + organisim

    by definition a cyborg is half machine half organic

    if he was just a droid why would he need to breathe? and why the asthma? GRIEVOUS(correct spelling)hated being refered to as a droid...he considered himself a living being
     
  14. EHT

    EHT Manager Emeritus star 7 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    He used to be an organic being with a brain; his brain was salvageable, so of course they kept it (because without his brain he wouldn't be himself anymore). And a brain and eyes could not be sustained without a heart and lungs.
     
  15. Jabba_The_Hutt_123

    Jabba_The_Hutt_123 Jedi Master star 3

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    Grievous as a sort of new Dr Who cyberman would make sense, but I suppose they wanted him to be a precursor to Vader.
     
  16. SithStarSlayer

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    Lando: "G-G's story keeps getting WORSE all the time." ;)
     
  17. Dark Lady Mara

    Dark Lady Mara Manager Emeritus star 7 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    I think a more important question is why his organs aren't better protected. What keeps him from falling on a spike or something and stabbing himself through the gaps in armor's plating?

    For that matter, what protects his innards from infection?
     
  18. SithStarSlayer

    SithStarSlayer Manager Emeritus star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    GG is the perfect example of George's PT-planning...
    Sell the sizzle of a new villain, not his liver-steak.

    It would have been cool if Kenobi walked over and instead of saying "so UN-civilized", he should have said: "Ooh, Bar-B-Que!"
     
  19. jedislayer5000

    jedislayer5000 Jedi Youngling star 1

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    theyre in an airtight artificial gutsack
     
  20. EHT

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    Gutsack. Love that word.
     
  21. firesaber

    firesaber Jedi Master star 4

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    This. Remember Robocop?
     
  22. DarthBoba

    DarthBoba Manager Emeritus star 9 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Yeah, if you're going to be a nerd, you may want to educate yourself as to the meaning of 'cyborg'.
     
  23. Loupgarou

    Loupgarou Jedi Knight star 3

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    The comic still has a point. If you're gonna make your whole body different anyway, why not get better robo-versions of all those squishy parts? As long as your brain is still your brain it's still you and you're still a cyborg.

    I just cant imagine it would have been that complicated in the GFFA for grievous to get some nice robo-heart. Even if he hated droids, he obviously doesn't care enough about that to replace most of himself. Are his lungs really that sentimental to him, more say than his, well, sexual organs? My point being is he's sacrificed a lot of his organicness already. Why wouldn't someone like grievous go whole hog and switch all but his mind (And perhaps his eyes, it seems like even in star wars land artificial eyes are sub-par)?
     
  24. Separatist101

    Separatist101 Jedi Master star 3

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  25. Jabba_The_Hutt_123

    Jabba_The_Hutt_123 Jedi Master star 3

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    That's one issue I didn't like regarding Grievous.
    The cough is meant to be imperfect technology which by the time of Darth Vader had been improved.

    But that's what, 4 or 5 years maximum? Considering that the GFFA seems to advance quite slowly in general, at least EU included it seems a short amount on time. And if there was better technology would Grievous not want to update himself, especially now his backstory is being changed to he upgraded himself to improve himself.

    You can argue that Palpatine had access to the best technology but then the EU has Vader's technology not being of very high quality which makes even less sense.
     
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