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Why does Vader prevent Boba Fett from shooting at Chewbacca in ESB

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  1. cr0wbar

    cr0wbar Jedi Youngling

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    In Empire during the carbine freezing scene when Chewbacca goes crazy, Boba Fett raises his rifle and Vader pushes it down. Any theories on why Vader would do this? I did a search on this and couldn't find anything, sorry if it has been discussed.
     
  2. ampersand2001

    ampersand2001 Jedi Youngling

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    I have wondered the same thing, I would think that he would have just killed all of them once he knew that Luke was on his way....maybe it was the good in him acting out?
     
  3. Ididitall4thewookie

    Ididitall4thewookie Jedi Youngling star 3

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    Im glad somebody brought this up. I was wondering that yesterday.

    Barring anything happening in ROTS that explains it (which I hope), I think that maybe it would have been too much. DV tortures Han and Chewy to get Luke's attention throught the force. Maybe killing one of them would have spooked Luke TOO much and made him more wary.

    I would also like to ask why DV didnt seem to torture Leia at Bespin. The look between them while Chewy is going crazy might have something to do with it.

    In another forum, someone opined that DV was trying to make sure 3PO didnt get hit out of some sentimentality from creating him, but I dont buy that.
     
  4. ShaneP

    ShaneP Ex-Mod Officio star 7 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    To keep Fett from hitting 3PO.
     
  5. Fuzzy_Slippers

    Fuzzy_Slippers Jedi Youngling

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    It seems to me that Vader just didnt want to piss of Luke by killing his friend.

    He is afterall trying to get him to join the Dark Side.

    I don't buy the 3PO thing, I mean afterall there are a lot of driods that look identical to 3PO and we don't even know if Vader is aware he has gold armor.
     
  6. dorkstar

    dorkstar Jedi Youngling star 1

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    Ididitall4thewookie is correct.

    If Chewie died, Luke (or Yoda) would have sensed it, and determined, "If he's going to kill them, anyway, I won't go to Bespin." So Vader made Fett put the gun down. Good call.
     
  7. cr0wbar

    cr0wbar Jedi Youngling

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    I thought about the 3PO thing, but I don't buy it. I was wondering if it had something to do with trying to turn Luke. I think if anyone died except maybe Han then Luke would have been too angry (for lack of a better word, serious brain fart here) to join Vader.
     
  8. Devilanse

    Devilanse Jedi Knight star 5

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    If Chewie died, Luke (or Yoda) would have sensed it, and determined, "If he's going to kill them, anyway, I won't go to Bespin." So Vader made Fett put the gun down.

    Negative. The carbon chamber was being tested for use on Luke. A gun battle breaking out minutes before Luke arrives would not be productive.

    They needed to get the test over with, so it could be reset for Luke, and everyone else could make themselves scarce.
     
  9. Count_Cuckoo

    Count_Cuckoo Jedi Padawan star 4

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    Devilanse is right and any destruction to any part of the chamber would take Vaders plan way out for Luke. The chamber would be unoperational.
     
  10. DarthLassic007

    DarthLassic007 Jedi Master star 6

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    If Vader tries to kill his own son in ROTJ, do you really think he cares about some droid he made over 30 years before that?
    And who cares if C-3PO had been shot. Droids can easily be repaired. Little R2 got shot by Vader's TIE and still survived.
    Vader was trying to keep the situation under control. That's all.


     
  11. dorkstar

    dorkstar Jedi Youngling star 1

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    Sorry, I beg to differ with Devilanse's assessment. Vader didn't even know about the Carbon Freezer at that point of the movie, the "dinner table" scene. There are several more scenes - including the torture scenes - before Vader finds the freezer and tells Calrissian, "We will test it... on Captain Solo."

    If Fett had shot Chewbacca, Luke would have sensed "death," not "torture," while on Degobah. And Yoda would have very easily convinced him to stay on Degobah. Vader knew that. So he stopped Fett.
     
  12. cr0wbar

    cr0wbar Jedi Youngling

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    Well Luke didn't mention Chewie when he was having his force vision only Han and Leia. Makes me wonder what kind of personal hell Leia was going through to make that big of a disturbance where it took Han being tortured to cause one. I know Leia is most likely force sensative but still. Unless it was something that would happen to Leia in an alternate future if Luke didn't go help. I also have to mention that Luke saw the "Future" not what was happening to Han, so maybe the torture was not needed and just something Vader was trying to get Luke's attention.
     
  13. dorkstar

    dorkstar Jedi Youngling star 1

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    Maybe Leia had a vicious headache.
     
  14. IceDrake523

    IceDrake523 Jedi Youngling star 1

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    DV stopped Boba from killing Chewie b/c everybody likes Chewie.
     
  15. Kung-Fu-Yoda

    Kung-Fu-Yoda Jedi Padawan star 4

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    Because if everyone died there wouldn't be a movie
     
  16. cr0wbar

    cr0wbar Jedi Youngling

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    Chewie could have died and there still would have been a movie. I am wondering why this scene was shown. I hope that Revenge of the Sith shows a bit more of the Darth Vader and Boba Fett relationship, so we learn the origin of the "No disintegrations" line among other things.
     
  17. WhiskeyGold

    WhiskeyGold Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Vader just didn't want to lose controll of the event. He didn't want Fett to shoot, maybe just hit Chewy and have a pissed off Wookie. It just wants the place or time to start shotting people.
     
  18. Magic_Al

    Magic_Al Jedi Youngling star 3

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    If Vader recognized 3PO he would probably feel something, but not sentimentality. What 3PO would mean to Vader in this scene is that his plan is working. Vader might not have thought about 3PO in decades, but suddenly seeing him would be unexpected yet welcome evidence that he was indeed getting closer to his son. Vader's mind would race around the idea that 3PO had somehow been passed down to Luke and was now here with Luke's friends, and not even knowing the details it would make sense and feel right. Vader might be so pleased with himself at this point that he stops Boba Fett just so he can continue basking in the dark side power that was making his plan become reality.
     
  19. Darth_Maul_Sith_Lord

    Darth_Maul_Sith_Lord Jedi Padawan star 4

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    "In another forum, someone opined that DV was trying to make sure 3PO didnt get hit out of some sentimentality from creating him, but I dont buy that."

    I don't buy it either. Here's Darth Vader, Jedi-Killing Machine, scourge of the Galaxy, known for force choking his underlings, but underneath that cold exterior he's a droid lovin fool. Come on...

    ;)


    D_M_S_L

    Edit: Call me stupid but I just thought of this.... Why would Vader let the Storm Troopers shoot 3PO but not Fett.

    Anyway, On with the Show!
     
  20. Ceethreepio

    Ceethreepio Jedi Knight star 5

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    Here is my two cents, he wasn't stoping Boba from shooting Chewie, he was stopping him from firing in general because tabana gas is used for blasters so if he fired his gun it would be a little more dangerous than a basic blaster wound.
     
  21. CieSharp

    CieSharp Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    I just figured Vader restrained Fett out of respect for Chewie's badassed, old school way of taking down those stormies ;)
     
  22. Fledgling

    Fledgling Jedi Youngling

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    Just another thought, Vader, soon after Han is frozen, tells Lando to put Leia and Chewie on his own ship, going back on the deal he made with Lando that they would be left on Cloud City. Maybe Vader didn't want Boba Fett to shoot because he was thinking that having Leia and Chewie still under his thumb, he could still use them in a way to turn Luke to the darkside. Threatening them or harming them further in some way would just increase having Luke under his power & command, keep Luke "in line" as it were.

    On the subject of Leia's "torture," they *did* take away her pretty dress...any woman will tell you that hurts. :_|
     
  23. Project_Starscream

    Project_Starscream Jedi Grand Master star 2

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    "Call me stupid but I just thought of this.... Why would Vader let the Storm Troopers shoot 3PO but not Fett."

    I doubt he was there when they shot him & he most likely didn't expect to see C-3PO there (so he couldn't have told them "make sure you don't shoot my droid").
     
  24. Durwood

    Durwood Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    It's very simple: Vader is in charge and he decides if, when, and where his prisoners will die. There's no way in hell he'd let some mercenary for hire make the decision for him. In fact, Boba Fett is lucky Vader didn't punish him for his impertinence.
     
  25. skywalker19145

    skywalker19145 Jedi Master star 1

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    maybe vader didnt want fett to kill them because he was going to torture them and try to find out where the new rebel base was?

    as aside note - did anyone notice the look on leia's face after vader pushes fett's arm down? the camera focuses on her staring at it for some reason.
     
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