Why doesn't Obi-wan warn Luke you can block Sith Lightning with a lightsaber?

Would have saved him a lot of Pain

 

Because GL didn't know that at the time.

Besides, look at the differences in Palpy's Sith Lightning and Dooku. Palpy's, to me anyways, sounded a lot more powerful. Like it couldn't be blocked with a sabre.

 

excellent point.

I relaly wish dooku didn't use lighting, that should of been jsut palpatines gig.

Which raises the question:

If dooku has lightning, and so does palpatine, and we've seen that there are at least 2 ways to stop the lighting,

and dooku is also an unparalleled swordsmen, he did keep yoda at bay, and Palpatine cannot weild a saber (fingers crossed) then isn't dooku more powerful then Palpatine?

Or does Palpatine have better lightning? we have super battle droids, is there superlightining?

Basically as a result of the dooku duel, Palpatine looks wimpy, unless he does have a saber fight in ep3, which seems more and more likely since the yoda fight played so well in ep2, I suspect we get a yoda vs palpatine saber duel in ep3.

 

The Palpatine saber fight would suck IMO. I hope that his lightning really is more powerful. Perhaps Obi-Wan (or Mace, or Yoda, or Anakin, etc) will attempt to block it in E3 and fail miserably.

 

Just because we haven't seen Palpatine weild a sabre doesn't mean he can't. Think about it-the most powerful Force users we've sene on screen (besides Vader, of course) are the ones who don't really do anything with the Force-Yoda/Palpatine.
IMO, sabre-weilding prowess doesn't have a lot to do with Force potential. That comes more from training and time as far as I'm concerned. Look at Luke and Anakin-neither of them is as good with a sabre as, say, Yoda, but we know that Anakin at least has more raw potential that Yoda ever did.

 

Originally when I heard yoda was going to fight I figured it would be palpatine. I figured that a healthy dose of sith lightning was what took the healthy TPM puppet to the state of the dying ESB puppet.

"Do not, underestimate the powers of the emperor..."


There is so much implied in that line, intentional or not.

As for palpatine saber fighting, I don't want it to happen, but I'm not going to be surprised if and when it does. There are even those who want to see that, "after all someone had to train maul to fight" I'm sure it'll happen and everyone will say "well we always wanted to see Palpatine saber fight, to see why he is trully the emperor!"

and they'll point out: '"ah a jedi's weapon" doesn't prove he doesn't have a saber of his own, he's just saying that it is the weapon of a jedi, so much for your attempts to prove inconsistencies, try again basher.'

I can't wait for 2005

 

DarthBoba I like your icon

I hope we don't see the emperor fight with a lightsaber (gulp)

"Someone had to train Maul"
(Gulp)

Well I guess at least it'll prove that the Emperor is a bad ass!

 

"Who da emperor?"

"palpy is da emperor"

no wait even better:

"da emperor rules!"

 

The Emperor is Da man you'll see come Ep III.

 

But seriously...

The serious agony and pain in the a$$, Obi-Wan caused Luke.

He could've at least given him a word of warning, it's a common sith power.

Maybe GL is preparing this for the Ultimate edition.

I wonder how that scene would play out?!

 

Why didn't Obi-Wan warn Luke that Force Lightning could be blocked with a lightsaber?

A. Obi-Wan was mainly worried about the psychological attack that the Emperor was going to attempt on Luke.

B. George Lucas didn't know at the time of writing ROTJ that he was going to be making a prequel trilogy. He didn't know that he was going to write up a character named Dooku who would use Force Lightning.

 

The Emperor is Da man you'll see come Ep III.
We already know why the Emperor's da man. Anybody who can manipulate an entire galaxy that effectively has any flippin-across-the-screen-with-umpteen-sabres Jedi beat already.

 

Lucas has said that the act of blocking Force lightning on a lightsabre is something that only very powerful Jedi can do...I don't think Luke would've had the power to do so during ROTJ. Obi-Wan is powerful enough to block it, Anakin wouldn't have been, and Yoda can actually block and deflect it with his bare hands.

As for Palpatine, I'd love to see him fight in Episode 3. In my mind, he'd be the best damn Form II user ever - can't you just see him calmly facing off against a Jedi, holding his sabre one-handed, and gracefully knocking away attacks without moving? Think Vader at the start of the ESB duel...

 

"We already know why the Emperor's da man."

Well most of us already knew why yoda was 'da man' but we still saw him fight.

As for luke not being powerful enough, whose to say, he's suppose to be basically a parallel of Anakin, by all accounts Luke is suppose to be a very powerful Jedi.

And as for only certain jedi being able to block the lightning, when did GL say that? It seems to me the lightning was drawn to the saber like a lighting rod, it was simple physics that blocked the lightning, if this is not the case it certainly doesn't come across on screen. And why would obi-wan or yoda even know how to block th lightning, if it is some special technique? none of them have ever come in contact with it before then?

 

Remember ROTJ Luke threw his lightsabre away in defiance of the empereor orders to kill his father.

So if ob1 did tell him it would't matter, Luke would still be fried like an egg, mmmmmmm extra cripsy please

 

Who knows, maybe Obi-wan or Yoda did tell him how to block Sith lightning. Just because it isn't mentioned in the movie doesn't mean Luke doesn't know it.
But even if Luke knew how to block Sith lighting it wouldn't have helped him since he wasn't holding his lightsaber at the moment the Emperor attacked him...

 

and they'll point out: '"ah a jedi's weapon" doesn't prove he doesn't have a saber of his own, he's just saying that it is the weapon of a jedi, so much for your attempts to prove inconsistencies, try again basher.'

I'm NOT a basher......
To me it seemed like the Emperor was mocking Luke and his lightsaber. Almost like "OH how cute, a lightsaber." I think that the guy is powerful enough to not need the lightsaber. Also, his gig is manipulating people, he had Vader and Dooku to do his fighting for him, and in Ep III I think he will have Anakin to do his fighting.

I do think Palps will open a can on Mace though.....through some yet unseen darkside power.

It seems to me the lightning was drawn to the saber like a lighting rod, it was simple physics that blocked the lightning...

We are talking about the SW universe. Simple physics don't explain it. OB1 blocked it with what he thought would work. He'd had a little time to think about it since Anakin got fried.

 

At the point when the Emperor struck Luke, Luke was not holding his lightsaber. He had tossed it aside after he defeated Vader when he caught the Emperor laughing at/with him.

So it is a possibility that he knew how to block lightning but didn't care. He had already admitted he was going to die anyway. He figured the Death Star was going to blow up. He was just done fighting, in a way displaying to the Emperor that he [Luke] had won and the Emperor had failed.

Another thing to think about is perhaps Luke felt a change in Vader when the Emperor started laughing. Luke, knowing his life was lost anyway, figured that perhaps the only was to bring his father back to the "light" in the short amount of time that was left was to put himself in mortal danger so that his Dad could save him.

Also Luke was sent by Yoda to face Vader not the Emperor, so tipping him to Dark Lord fighting techiques was not thought of since Vader does not appear to prefer using lightning.

 

Not to intrude real life into this too much, but Obi-Wan's lightning block was a late addition to the film. Even spoiled people were taken by surprise, and it was not in the novelization.

 

Luke will eventually become increadibly powerful, but at the time of ROTJ he's very inexperienced. Let's face it, at the time, none of us really knew that Force lightning could be either absorbed by a lightsabre or deflected by a Force defence. Luke didn't have the level of control to do this at the time. He certainly has after!

As for Obi-Wan being powerful enough to block Force lightning on his sabre, hmm, fair enough, RebelScumb. I'm sure I remember Lucas saying that Obi-Wan being able to do that wasn't an every-day Jedi kind of ability, but I'm going to take a look around at my information to see if I can properly back that statement up. For the moment, take it as unofficial, lol

 

"I'm NOT a basher......"

I know, I meant thats what people will say in 2005 if people try to critisize a Palpatine lightsaber scene. Sorry it it came out wrong.

"To me it seemed like the Emperor was mocking Luke and his lightsaber. Almost like "OH how cute, a lightsaber." I think that the guy is powerful enough to not need the lightsaber."

I agree 150%, and this is how I felt about Yoda before he fought, he and palpy seemed so above the usual jedi/sith battles, they were working on a whole other level.

"none of us really knew that Force lightning could be either absorbed by a lightsabre or deflected by a Force defence."

Because I'm pretty sure even gL didn't know htat until he was making Aotc, as was pointed out it was a late addition, as was the wizards battle. I love htis planned form 1974, but make it up as you go way making SW.

 

Yoda: "No, unfortnuate that you rushed to face him. That incomplete was your training."

Yoda: "You must complete the training."

Luke ran off to rescue Han and Leia, which he shouldn't have done in the first place. They were fine without him and had to rescue his butt. Had he stayed on Dagobah, he would've completed his training and have been better prepared to face the Sith head on. Also, Luke threw away his Lightsaber which was important as it showed that he was a Jedi and not a Sith. This was important not just to him, but to the redemption of Vader. As to the use of the Force to block Sith Lighting, minus the Lightsaber, that too is something that must be learned over time. You cannot rush something like that. Bad enough that they rushed Luke as it is, to screw up doing a more complex skill isn't wise.

Just cause Yoda warns Luke about the powers of the Emperor, doesn't necessary refer to Sith Lighting. Like was said, it could refer to his powers of persuassion. (sp)

 

I watched AOTC last night on dvd. In the theater I vividly recall Obi wan having a very surprised look on his face when he blocks the lightening. If I'm not mistaken he doesn't do that on the dvd. Did anybody notice that?

 

Just a thought on Obi-Wan being able to deal with Sith Lightning so easily..

Perhaps after the events of TPM, Obi-Wan decided to make himself into a Jedi with more direct anti-Sith ability? It's mentioned in the SW Insider that he changes his lightsabre dueling style from Form IV to III after it becomes apparent to him that IV wasn't good enough against a Sith Lord? This could mean lots of other things as well, such as learning how to directly counter-act Sith Lightning, etc..seems likely, as he saw his Master get killed by a Sith.

 

"Lucas's Grand Plan"

Form II ?

Again, I'm not saying if Luke was powerful or not.

Or, even if he just threw away his lightsaber.

He might have had second-thoughts about throwing it away had he known, or clipped it onto his belt.

(How did Luke know the DS was about to blow?he didn't, The Imperial troops morale didn't collapse, till after the Emperor died)

What I'm saying is why didn't Obi-wan tell him he was in for a shock?



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DarthBoba You raise a good point. Maybe Obi-Wan decided to read up on the sith after his encounter

...that also means the Jedi should have been ready that the Sith Master might pop-up any day...