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Why doesn't Obi-Wan's lightsaber short out?

Discussion in 'Archive: Attack of the Clones' started by Anakin_Skywalker217, Nov 6, 2003.

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  1. Anakin_Skywalker217

    Anakin_Skywalker217 Jedi Youngling star 3

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    Why doesn't Obi-Wan's lightsaber short out when he was fighting in the rain with Jango Fett back at Kamino? Doesn't lightsabers short out when they come in contact with water?
     
  2. ST-TPM-ASF-TNE

    ST-TPM-ASF-TNE Moderator Emeritus star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Originally there was a deleted scene in The Phantom Menace that showed Obi-Wan's lightsaber shorted out. But I think GL changed the concept of lightsabers shortening out in the rain so that he could do the rain fight.

    So, as far as I know, lightsabers don't short out in any wet conditions.
     
  3. Anakin_Skywalker217

    Anakin_Skywalker217 Jedi Youngling star 3

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    Ahh... Thanks
     
  4. Sithman

    Sithman Jedi Grand Master star 7

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    Alas, during the Kamino fight, I wish the Obi-Wan's saber would have evaporated raindrops when they came into contact with it... Like there'd be this cool, fog/steam aura surrounding his lightsaber from all the drops evaporating.

    And the little "psh" sound effects of the drops on the saber woulda been cool too...

    Ah well! :)
     
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  5. ST-TPM-ASF-TNE

    ST-TPM-ASF-TNE Moderator Emeritus star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    I believe that lightsabers don't actually generate heat (unless they come into contact with an object).
     
  6. Sithman

    Sithman Jedi Grand Master star 7

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    Aren't raindrops objects? :confused:
     
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  7. ForceMaster101

    ForceMaster101 Jedi Knight star 5

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    No, there things!
     
  8. nbonaparte

    nbonaparte Jedi Youngling star 1

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    Sithman: Technically speaking, since raindrops are matter, Obi-Wan's lightsaber should have evoperated them. But since this is a movie (and since we already have problems like sounds in vacuum), we should ignore that and enjoy the fight. 8-}

    Nadia
     
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  9. Sithman

    Sithman Jedi Grand Master star 7

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    My fine friend, I was not "knocking" the fight at all... It's one of my favorite duels in the saga... I was just saying "It woulda been a bit cooler if..."

    I love AOTC and defend it, and Star Wars all the time! :D

    Man, this place has gotten uptight if even a huge fan like my can't say a little thing like that without being misinterpreted and jumped on. :p
     
  10. nbonaparte

    nbonaparte Jedi Youngling star 1

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    As anybody who knows me can tell you, I was being sarcastically witty. 8-}

    Unfortunately, the fight was ... disappointing, to say the least. Obi-Wan's one of my favorite characters, the Jedi are what I watch the PT for, and seeing him (Obi-Wan) lose so pathetically to Jango Fett was totally un-funny. :mad:

    Nadia
     
  11. Sithman

    Sithman Jedi Grand Master star 7

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    Ah well, I liked it.

    And I don't think Obi-Wan lost... I always kinda assumed it was a draw. Obi-Wan was knocked off a ledge but uninjured, and Jango ran away.
     
  12. ST-TPM-ASF-TNE

    ST-TPM-ASF-TNE Moderator Emeritus star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Aren't raindrops objects?

    Raindrops clearly are not objects, or else I would be wrong, which is unpossible.
     
  13. Mortimer_Nerdly

    Mortimer_Nerdly Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    In some EU games, Lightsabers deactivate when submerged in water.

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  14. nbonaparte

    nbonaparte Jedi Youngling star 1

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    ST-TPM-ASF-TNE: Raindrops clearly are not objects, or else I would be wrong, which is unpossible.

    "Unpossible" clearly should not be "impossible," because otherwise you would be wrong, which is impossible. [face_mischief] 8-}

    Nadia
     
  15. Anakin_Skywalker217

    Anakin_Skywalker217 Jedi Youngling star 3

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    Yes!! See!! Exactly my point! Mortimer_Nerdly, well said.
     
  16. SaberGiiett7

    SaberGiiett7 Jedi Grand Master star 6

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    ^_^ Submerged is the key word. I believe lightsabers actually do deactivate when saturated with water but in the Kamino melee the blade was only getting pelted with raindrops.

    "I wish the Obi Wan's saber have evaporated raindrops when they came into contact with it... Like there'd be this cool, fog/steam aura surrounding his lightsaber from all the drops evaporating."

    Neat idea Sithman. :cool:If the computer graphics engineers at ILM would've though of that it would've added a great effect to the platform battle.

    <[-]> Saber
     
  17. Mortimer_Nerdly

    Mortimer_Nerdly Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    Aww, shucks Anakin_Skywalker217! :)

    nbonaparte, maybe it's me, but it's possible ST may be being a wise@$$ again (Gotta love his humor! :) ).

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  18. Sithman

    Sithman Jedi Grand Master star 7

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    "Aren't raindrops objects?

    Raindrops clearly are not objects, or else I would be wrong, which is unpossible.
    "


    Always a pleasure to prove a mod wrong. ;)


    Anyways, I agree with whoever said that I think lightsabers short out when completely submerged in water, but in a rain (even that heavy) they'll work just fine.

    Just like those watches that are "Water Resistant"... They're fine in the rain, but they can't be submerged under the water and stuff. :)
     
  19. arrowheadpodracer

    arrowheadpodracer Jedi Master star 5

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    Sithman, when I first heard about the rain battle all I could think about was how cool that could sound when the rain hits the saber.
    Now, I think it would have been too many sounds. Just too much distraction.


    Then again, if you asked Ben Burtt, maybe he'd tell you those sound effects are in the mix!
     
  20. Bib Fortuna Twi'lek

    Bib Fortuna Twi'lek Jedi Youngling star 10

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    I agree, they should have added the sizzling raindrops in the movie, to make the fight scene that much cooler.
     
  21. Anakin_Skywalker217

    Anakin_Skywalker217 Jedi Youngling star 3

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    Yeah... That'll be cool
     
  22. Obi-Wan_and_only

    Obi-Wan_and_only Jedi Youngling star 2

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    In-universe- Well, I just chalk it up to saber design. It simply ignores things of a low desnity (water, air) without vaping them. Otherwise, they'd constantly be burning up the air, making huge clouds of smoke.

    Out-Of-Universe- it'd be damn cool to see, though.
     
  23. TheWombat

    TheWombat Jedi Padawan star 4

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    Well, in TPM, they swam underwater to the Gungan city, and they didn't have to switch out sabers later on... so I assume they are pretty waterproof.
     
  24. Darth Vince

    Darth Vince Jedi Padawan star 4

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    ----"Alas, during the Kamino fight, I wish the Obi-Wan's saber would have evaporated raindrops when they came into contact with it... Like there'd be this cool, fog/steam aura surrounding his lightsaber from all the drops evaporating."----

    When the spy report on this scene first came in, it was reported that the effect you speak of was going to be included in post-production. I remember sitting in the theatre wondering what happened. I was really thinking it was going to be cool. The spy report stating that the effect would be included was the first report to come in on that particular scene, so it's logical to assume that whoever sent it in was legit, but I never understood why the evaporating effect wasn't included. I really thought it would be cool.

     
  25. SaeseeJim

    SaeseeJim Jedi Padawan star 4

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    To this day I would still like to know why Obi-Wan kicked Jango when the rope was stilled attached to his arm.

    By the way I agree that when the lightsaber is completely submerged in water that it shorts out but not in the rain.
    Maybe when it's underwater the blade absorbs the water and it becomes to saturated and it shorts out.
     
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