Amph Why doesn't the Federation believe in radiation suits?

Wrath of Khan - Spock goes into containment with only a pair of gloves. Promptly nukes himself.

Into Darkness - same thing only with Kirk.


Does OSHA not exist in the future? How about the NRC?

 

Normally, when you have some kind of **** work that has a high casualty rate associated with it, you just find
the nearest crewman wearing a red shirt, and then order them to do it.

 

They do. Check out the guys in white.



I'm guessing in a crisis, though, there might not be time to suit up.

 

I guessed Aytee-Aytee had some other point, so I didn't bother posting this before.

 

The radiation suit wouldn't have helped, and you're presenting two examples as though one didn't just copy the other.

 

All though, if the captain did order his men into the chamber without the correct suits he could be held responsible and lose his command. Thus by doing it himself he avoided that. But Spock in the first movie went in without an order thus allowing Jim to keep his command. Plus Spock actually disobeyed an order to go into it.

 

What in the hell is beez talking about?

The above are correct: there are suits. People are shown wearing them. In The Wrath of Khan -- Kirk says "I need warp power in three minutes or we're all dead." By the time Spock gets down there, time has elapsed. No time to put on the suit, goes in, saves the ship but dies. Easy.

In The Remake of Khan presumably the straits are just as dire, but without explicitly mentioning time that I can recall. Again, no time to suit up.

 

lol

 

Spock was never ordered to go down to Engineering, nor into the chamber where the mains were. McCoy tells him not to go in, but he doesn't outrank Spock who is a Captain. McCoy wasn't a Captain. He becomes an Admiral after he's retired.

Incidentally, it's only on television that we don't see those suits.

 

did the radiation give him a lazy eye?

 

When you post, this is what I imagine:

 

Maybe we all have someone on ignore that beezel doesn't and beezel is really replying to him or her.

 

Watch out for Delta rays. I hear those things will mess you up something fierce.

 

the cruelest fate

 

Doubt it. Pine's Kirk didn't even get the equivalent of a mild sunburn after his radiation exposure whereas Nimoy's Spock was peeling all over the place.

 

That wasn't from radiation... it was caused by too much SHATNER EXPOSURE!!!!!!!!! He will melt your face off with awesomeness.

 

The real question is who's the sadistic mech. design engineer who built a warp core that has no way to manipulate its core unless entering the chamber itself?

 

Forgetting the fiction for a second, how effective are IRL radiation suits, really?

 

If I were to hazard a guess, I think it could be done without having to be done manually, but the Enterprise took two beatings from the Reliant and as a result, it had to be done manually. In the last film, it did take a beating from the Vengeance. Both times it was strategically targeted by someone familiar with the tech designs of the ship.

 

They were all on lunch break obviously.

 

Red Alert usually means lunch break is cancelled.

 

Not if there's pizza in the breakroom.

 

In the second film, the implication is that a lot of the Engineering crew members were either injured or physically spent from trying to keep the ship together. Look behind Kirk while he's speaking to Spock and you can see one member swaying as if he's about to pass out. Can't say with the last film since I haven't watched it and don't plan to.

 

Nice pun.