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Why don't the Jedi Knights use shields?

Discussion in 'Star Wars Community' started by Quiet_Mandalorian, Apr 26, 2005.

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  1. Quiet_Mandalorian

    Quiet_Mandalorian Jedi Master star 5

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    I just thought of this the other day. Why, exactly, would they not use energy shields to supplement their lightsabers?

    The Gungans have a nifty wrist-mounted shield that they use (about the only cool thing about them IMHO), and this would be the perfect complement to a lightsaber.
     
  2. Cloned_Sidious

    Cloned_Sidious Jedi Knight star 8

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    Hmmm... [face_thinking] Why would they use them?

    They can block lasers with Lightsaber.
     
  3. tavis12

    tavis12 Jedi Youngling star 2

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    Why don't fencers use shields? Different strokes for different folks.
     
  4. Quiet_Mandalorian

    Quiet_Mandalorian Jedi Master star 5

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    Why don't fencers use shields? Different strokes for different folks.

    Umm, I hate to tell you this, but the main reason fencers don't use shields is because foil, saber, or epee fencing is a highly evolved gentleman's game with very little applicability for real combat.

    The Jedi are quite clearly involved in life-or-death combat, and so I think a shield would be useful (especially around someone like Darth Maul).
     
  5. tavis12

    tavis12 Jedi Youngling star 2

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    You have an interesting way of inviting people to post on your threads.
     
  6. Quixotic-Sith

    Quixotic-Sith Manager Emeritus star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    IIRC, lightsabre combat is meant to be modeled on combat with katana - a principally two-handed form. Adding a shield would make that unwieldy, and prevent flexibility in combat.
     
  7. Quiet_Mandalorian

    Quiet_Mandalorian Jedi Master star 5

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    You have an interesting way of inviting people to post on your threads.

    Hey, I apologize if you feel slighted by my last remark. I wasn't deliberately trying to offend you.

    IIRC, lightsabre combat is meant to be modeled on combat with katana - a principally two-handed form. Adding a shield would make that unwieldy, and prevent flexibility in combat.

    Interestingly though, the lightsaber handles seem, on average to be somewhat shorter than a classic katana's would be, allowing less space for the grip, and thus for some of the cuts. The lack of a proper shield too, was always a major flaw in the Japanese fighting style.
     
  8. DarkJediLord

    DarkJediLord Jedi Youngling star 1

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    Prehaps they can't use the force if they have hand-held shields. Think about it, if your holding a Lightsaber in one hand and a shield in the other then how are you going to use the force?
     
  9. tavis12

    tavis12 Jedi Youngling star 2

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    xoxoxo buddy.
     
  10. Quiet_Mandalorian

    Quiet_Mandalorian Jedi Master star 5

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    Prehaps they can't use the force if they have hand-held shields. Think about it, if your holding a Lightsaber in one hand and a shield in the other then how are you going to use the force?

    But what if your shield generator is strapped to your wrist? Would that not solve the problem? ;)
     
  11. DarkJediLord

    DarkJediLord Jedi Youngling star 1

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    But what if your shield generator is strapped to your wrist? Would that not solve the problem?

    Yes it probably would solve the problem but if they had shields for Jedi then Star Wars wouldn't be the same.
     
  12. Quiet_Mandalorian

    Quiet_Mandalorian Jedi Master star 5

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    Yes it probably would solve the problem but if they had shields for Jedi then Star Wars wouldn't be the same.

    It would be interesting though, in a whole new way.
     
  13. ShadowJedi05

    ShadowJedi05 Jedi Youngling star 2

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    eh, not sure shields would really be much use to Jedi. They can deflect blaster bolts with the lightsaber. They use the force for any physical objects. And against another lightsaber a) dunno that a shield would be much help and b) it'd seriously screw up their fighting styles. I think in the end a shield would hinder the way Jedi operate.
     
  14. Quiet_Mandalorian

    Quiet_Mandalorian Jedi Master star 5

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    Considering the practicality and effectiveness of shields in sword combat, I think it's likely that a Jedi armed with lightsaber and energy shield could overwhelm a lightsaber-only opponent with relative ease.

    They can deflect blaster bolts with the lightsaber

    They can't deflect every blast that comes at them though. Another bonus would be that a shield-bearing Jedi would be doubly protected against blasters.
     
  15. Reboscale

    Reboscale Jedi Padawan star 4

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    When George originally imagined Lightsabers... he told the actors to think of them as if they were very heavy, they needed two hands whenever they would swing, ect. I believe that this (if true) would make it very hard for anyone not built like a barbarian to wield both at the same time. I read this somewhere, and I know someone will ask me where... But I don't remember :(
     
  16. DarthKakarot

    DarthKakarot Jedi Youngling star 5

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    Rebo, that info is true, it is on the bonus disc of the dvd trilogy.

    why use a shield when they have the force???
     
  17. Ja-ClosEasou

    Ja-ClosEasou Jedi Youngling star 1

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    You don't need a limb free to summon the Force. It is all around. If that is indeed the case, how does Vader do it with 2 prosthetic arms?
     
  18. Quiet_Mandalorian

    Quiet_Mandalorian Jedi Master star 5

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    why use a shield when they have the force???

    Because they seem to die in alarming numbers when fighting simple battle droids.
     
  19. DarthKakarot

    DarthKakarot Jedi Youngling star 5

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    so did the gungans
     
  20. Leia's Starboard Hair Bun

    Leia's Starboard Hair Bun Jedi Master star 4

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    It's because Lucas doesn't care about continuity. Everyone should use those impenetrable gungan shields. Think about how much more effective and survivable stormtroopers would be if they had a shield to go with their blaster. Or how many of those Jedi on Geonosis would be alive if they'd had a shield to go with those allegedly-blaster parrying lightsabers. The battle in the field on Naboo and that in the arena on Geonosis both involve thousands of battle droids. Yet the Gungans largely survive because of their shields, while the Jedi drop like flies.
     
  21. DarthFlatulence

    DarthFlatulence Jedi Youngling star 1

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    A Jedi with a lightsabre would be to reminiscent of some sort of gladiator. To unweildy and cumbersome. Why don't we add a laser mace to the armament? How bought a light-spear and a Korfass Maiden?

    On a more serious note though, I though that I saw somewhere in one of Ralph McQuarrie's paintings that originally, the Stormtroopers carried lightsabres, and they also had some sort of hand held shield.

    And one more thing while we're talking about shielding, and i'm sure it has been asked before, if a lightsabre can cut through anything, how did Vader's armor deflect Luke's lightsabre blow in ESB?
     
  22. Quiet_Mandalorian

    Quiet_Mandalorian Jedi Master star 5

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    And one more thing while we're talking about shielding, and i'm sure it has been asked before, if a lightsabre can cut through anything, how did Vader's armor deflect Luke's lightsabre blow in ESB?

    Perhaps it's cortosis, or (even better) Mandalorian iron.

    For myself, I like the idea of the Jedi using shields because it would help crystalize their image as knights, and we all know the importance of image in Star Wars.
     
  23. JEDI_KNIGHT_RAYEARTH

    JEDI_KNIGHT_RAYEARTH Jedi Youngling star 1

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    I would think, although this is in my Final Fantasy Kind of way that they could create a sheild out of the Force!
    Wouldn't that be cool!
    But it would petter down once enough hits get through it, however, making a shield out of the Force is a cool idea.
     
  24. ShaneP

    ShaneP Ex-Mod Officio star 7 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Interestingly, Ralph McQuarrie's original concept work that helped sell the first SW to Fox Executives had one piece of art showing stromtroopers with sabers.....and shields.
     
  25. darth_Boba

    darth_Boba Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Quiet_Mandalorian posted on 4/26/05 7:48am

    Umm, I hate to tell you this, but the main reason fencers don't use shields is because foil, [b]saber[/b], or epee fencing is a highly evolved gentleman's game with very little applicability for real combat.

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    I'm so glad the Jedi don't use light[b]saber[/b]s, then. [face_plain]
     
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