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Why dont the Jedi Knights wear Blaster Proof Vests more often?

Discussion in 'Prequel Trilogy' started by Matthew78, Sep 30, 2007.

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  1. Matthew78

    Matthew78 Jedi Knight star 2

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    The Jedi Knights are the generals of the Grand Army of the Republic and personally lead the Clone Troopers in most missions on the front lines correct?so why dont they wear some Blaster Proof Vests or Blaster resistant Body Armor to protect themselves from dying in combat by absorbing the bolt fired from a Blaster and not get killed by one lucky shot or stray shot fired at chest or upper torso?

    Police and Military frequently use Bullet Proof Vests under their regular uniforms to take a bullet fired at the protected area and survive with few probelms, of course the arms and legs and head and neck cannot be covered by Bullet Proof Vests though, im sure in a Republic that has lasted over 1,000 years that there has to have been at least somebody that invented lightweight Blaster Resistant Vests that Police and Security forces can wear under their uniforms to prevent them from getting killed during rountine raids and missions in the line of duty, imagine all 200 Jedi Knights on Geonosis wearing Blaster Proof Vests that protected them from all but the worst hits and blasts in the areana battle on Geonosis, these would be light weight or moderate weight certantly not much of a probelm for a Jedi Knight or Jedi Master in good physical condition like Obi-Wan or Mace Windu or Anakin.

    It makes sense to use it too, i mean the Clones use armor so why dont the Jedi wear Bullet/Blaster Proof Vests under their normal Jedi Robes, vests that cannot be seen and give extra protection against Battle Droids, the only instances of Body Armor i have yet to see are Obi-Wan,Saesee Tinn and Mace Windu in the Clone Wars Cartoon but that is just weak armor like the Clones wear and offers very little protection, its like the Jedi think using blaster proof vest is a bad thing, like cheating or making up for lousy Lightsaber deflection skills or something.
     
  2. darth-sinister

    darth-sinister Manager Emeritus star 10 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Blaster proof armor doesn't feature in the films. Look no further than the Stormtroopers and Clonetroopers. They get killed despite the armor they wear. The Jedi don't wear armor in the films, because they just use Lightsabers which deflect blaster bolts.
     
  3. Matthew78

    Matthew78 Jedi Knight star 2

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    If you want to be fair its because Palpatine does not respect the lives of the Clones enough to give them good protective armor and considers the Clones to be easily replacable in the first place,because he has control of the Trade Federation and its Separitist allies Palpatine can stop or slow down the war at any time he wants, after the war is over all of the Clones that were killed in battle can just be mass produced and replaced again by newly grown Clone Troopers, the Clones themselves are not worth the money it costs to buy good armor, and enough Clones can kill anyone with little or no big casualites in battle.

    The Clones are just basically expendable to Palpatine and the Empire,if needed the Republic or Empire could give them mass produced but expensive Mandalorian Body Armor but it does not,this is strong enough to stop most blaster shots as well.

    There is no reason not to wear armor or vests for the jedi either, except for overconfidence and them thinking that they need no protection except for their own jedi skills and jedi combat training techniques.
     
  4. AnakinSucks

    AnakinSucks Jedi Youngling star 3

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    It would meet with real world common sense to wear armour, but look at it this way:

    If a Jedi cannot defend him or herself against simple Blaster bolts, then they have learned nothing.





     
  5. darth-sinister

    darth-sinister Manager Emeritus star 10 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Even the Rebel soldiers don't wear armor in the OT. The most armor they wear are helmets aboard the Tantive IV and during the Endor mission, outside of flying in fighters for all three OT films.
     
  6. Matthew78

    Matthew78 Jedi Knight star 2

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    Its based on past experience too though, most of the Jedi on Geonosis failed to survive and died pathetically in combat against the Battle Droid Army, Logic dictates in a war that you would resort to wearing Armor or Vests in battle to avoid being easily killed, especially when fighting people and Droids armed with rapid fire Blasters and other weapons in combat as well,its all logical and common sense as well, the Jedi are not idiots, and what about Padawan Learners getting overwhelmed in battles and getting killed because they are not fully trained and have limited ability at this point in their training? its not fair to them to fight without protection either,the Jedi should offer Vests and Armor to their Jedi and see if they want to use it or not, obviously Saesee Tinn and Obi-Wan Kenobi and Mace Windu and Anakin Skywalker all wore it in the Clone Wars Cartoon.

    And even Qui-Gon Jinn says in TPM, "I can only protect you,i cannot fight a war for you." this is taken out of content but basically it means that one or two Jedi cannot fight and win in a war or battle easily, they can defend and protect people but not fight battles, obviously their combat skills are not enough, but give them a bunch of Clone Troopers for backup and body armor or blaster proof vests and they can, it would reduce the number of Jedi deaths in the Clone Wars as well.
     
  7. darth-sinister

    darth-sinister Manager Emeritus star 10 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Well, they must be idiots because as we see in ROTS, they don't wear armor. The Jedi felt comfortable relying on the Force and a Lightsaber. It all goes back to what Yoda said.

    Yoda: "For my ally is the Force and a powerful ally it is."
     
  8. MASTER_DOODOO

    MASTER_DOODOO Jedi Padawan star 4

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    I like this thread/idea. Koleman Trebor could have used some blaster proofing, eh?
     
  9. Master_Starwalker

    Master_Starwalker Manager Emeritus star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Given how poor a job stormtrooper armor does, it seems as if it wouldn't have made a difference.
     
  10. MASTER_DOODOO

    MASTER_DOODOO Jedi Padawan star 4

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    Maybe they don't wear stormtrooper armor. Surely, the jedis could have had some better armor. When manufacturing armor for MILLIONS of individuals, you go with quantity, not quality. But manufacturing for ONE individual can change the picture. Look at Mace's lightsaber, for example. He had a UNIQUE one with certain metals and characteristics not found in others. Jedi armor would be MUCH more lighter and resistant than stormtrooper armor if they wanted to make it that way. I think the jedi clothing should have changed to something a little more sturdy for war combat.
     
  11. Master_Starwalker

    Master_Starwalker Manager Emeritus star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    True, but for each Jedi to have armor in the Clone Wars they would need to mass produce it as there's no reason for the Jedi to have such armor laying around given that they typically operate in a capacity that wouldn't be helped by wearing a suit of armor.
     
  12. Arawn_Fenn

    Arawn_Fenn Chosen One star 7

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    They were already mass-producing clone armor.
     
  13. Master_Starwalker

    Master_Starwalker Manager Emeritus star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    They were, but part of his point was the Jedi would have higher quality armor than Stormtrooper armor which is basically what the Clones had.
     
  14. Arawn_Fenn

    Arawn_Fenn Chosen One star 7

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    Actually, we see that in all the films.
     
  15. darth-sinister

    darth-sinister Manager Emeritus star 10 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    That's if you buy into the eu that says it is not high quality armor. There's nothing in the films that says it isn't.
     
  16. Master_Starwalker

    Master_Starwalker Manager Emeritus star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    It's never shown to do any good against blaster fire.
     
  17. MASTER_DOODOO

    MASTER_DOODOO Jedi Padawan star 4

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    Exactly. It's for hand to hand combat. That's clear. And it doesn't even do that good of a job in hand to hand. You've got rocks taking them out on Endor!
     
  18. sith_rising

    sith_rising Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Best thread title ever.
     
  19. SithStarSlayer

    SithStarSlayer Manager Emeritus star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Yep.

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    I'm amazed that you guys haven't spelled-out the REAL reason.
    Jedi can't use the Force when they have any armor on. I heard that it blocks their midichlorians from making a proper connection or something. ;)
     
  20. DarthBoba

    DarthBoba Manager Emeritus star 9 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    The Jedi don't believe in worrying about dying, I believe. So from that aspect, armor would be at odds with their very philosophy.







     
  21. Jedi_Keiran_Halcyon

    Jedi_Keiran_Halcyon Jedi Knight star 6

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    "You go to war with the clone army you have, not the clone army you want."
     
  22. Matthew78

    Matthew78 Jedi Knight star 2

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    If that is true then Darth Vader would have been a useless idiot in the entire OT walking around trying to kill Obi-Wan and Luke and getting his ass handed to him by both, at least until the Clones showed up as backup which never happens,i think armor wouldnt weigh a force user down just make it harder in certain duels and battles, but then again Obi-Wan was easily defeating Durge in the Clone Wars Cartoon and his armor did not stop him from doing that and it offered him some protection from punches and blows as well.
     
  23. Strilo

    Strilo Manager Emeritus star 8 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Yeah I think SithStar was kidding...
     
  24. SithStarSlayer

    SithStarSlayer Manager Emeritus star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    UR Correct, Strilo.
    And I'm heading over to the Social Thread to tell them all that you DO have a sense of humor!! :p





    (Sorry, couldn't help myself)[face_blush]
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  25. Alpha-Red

    Alpha-Red 18X Hangman Winner star 7 VIP - Game Winner

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    Ooo, but since you bring that up, why don't the Jedi use personal energy shields?? =O
     
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