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Why is it called Attack Of The Clones?

Discussion in 'Archive: Attack of the Clones' started by yodaschum, May 16, 2003.

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  1. yodaschum

    yodaschum Jedi Padawan star 4

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    The clones don't actually attack throughout the entire course of the movie. They are used only to defend the Jedi and Republic. The clones do not attack. The seperatists are the aggressors. Just one of a number of irritating issues I have with the film, that stop me from enjoying it. Wouldn't "Defense Of The Clones", or "Attack Of The Seperatists", been better titles?
     
  2. Jedi_Master201

    Jedi_Master201 Jedi Knight star 5

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    No. They wouldn't have been better.


    The clones do attack. They confronted the Seperatist forces on their turf.
     
  3. JKBurtola

    JKBurtola Jedi Youngling star 4

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    The Clones attack the Separatists in the name of defending the Republic.

    Plus they are a Force which attacks and is the initiator in breaking the 1000 years of peace.
     
  4. Ret

    Ret Jedi Grand Master star 6

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    Well the clones attack the separtists.
     
  5. yodaschum

    yodaschum Jedi Padawan star 4

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    The Chancellor says "I shall create a grand army, to counter the threat of the seperatists". The chancellor clearly states the Seperatists are the aggressors. The clones are employed to counteract the seperatists threat. Calling the movie "Attack Of the Clones" goes against everything we see in the film. For example, its like re-naming ESB "The Empire Gets Nailed".

    The Clones attack the Separatists in the name of defending the Republic.

    Well the clones attack the separtists


    If I remember correctly, The Clones don't attack the seperatists; they fly into the middle of a war between the Seperatist army, who have attacked the Jedi and The Republic. The Clones rescue the Jedi and then proceed to defend the Jedi and the Republic. Both sides cannot be attackers, one has to be defending and it surely cannot be the Seperatists.
     
  6. Jedi_Master201

    Jedi_Master201 Jedi Knight star 5

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    The Seperatists were a threat, but they did not attack.


    The Republic engaged them first. Holding Obi-Wan, Padme, and Anakin for espionage wasn't a decleration of war. Then the Jedi came, and started something. Then the clones came and attacked.
    Then the war began.


    It's quite simple, really.
     
  7. D_Lowe

    D_Lowe Jedi Knight star 6

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    Simple, the clones attacked (One year ago today)!
     
  8. yodaschum

    yodaschum Jedi Padawan star 4

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    If the USA sent in marines to rescue POW's from a state within their own country say..Texas, and when they arrived they found other marines already fighting with rebel marines, they then proceeded to fight off any of the rebel marines, whilst the POW's clambered aboard the Black Hawk Helicopters, surely they would be seen as rescuers, not attackers. I say this because, the Clones are clearly seen fending off droids and laser bolts whilst the Jedi board. To me, the clones arent really attacking. Do I have a point?
     
  9. Scott3eyez

    Scott3eyez Jedi Padawan star 4

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    The reason it was called Attack of the Clones was probably to try to draw attention to the fact that the war was started by the clones... Attacking.

    Obi Wan was spying on the Seperatists. He got captured.
    Anakin and Padme went to rescue him, and got captured too.
    A bunch of Jedi went to rescue him, and got captured.

    All of this was going on on a planet that had rejected the Senate, and was not a part of the Republic.

    The Clones then came in and started shooting. They attacked. They might have been doing it to defend the Jedi, or to prevent an attack on the Republic, but the motives and the action are not the same thing- it was still an attack.
     
  10. yodaschum

    yodaschum Jedi Padawan star 4

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    As in ,"attack is the best form of defense"?
     
  11. DARTH_CHINA

    DARTH_CHINA Jedi Master star 5

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    Why is it called Attack Of The Clones?

    Listen to the AOTC DVD audio commentary. George says why, it's the very first thing he says.
     
  12. yodaschum

    yodaschum Jedi Padawan star 4

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    Can you tell me what he says please, DARTHCHINA?
     
  13. Scott3eyez

    Scott3eyez Jedi Padawan star 4

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    Yep.

    Like the coalition forces launched an attack on Iraq to defend their interests.

    Their motive was defence, their action was attack.

    They hit back first. ;)

    On a side note, how many other films give away the ending in the title? ("Friday XIII part 9- Jason goes to Hell" is the only one I can think of...)
     
  14. yodaschum

    yodaschum Jedi Padawan star 4

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    I apologise, if this thread is now redundant, but I hope I've demonstrated that the "attack" is not as obvious as it seems, much similar to the way "The Phantom Menace", is also not as clear cut.
     
  15. DarthSil

    DarthSil Jedi Padawan star 4

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    Uh, no, you have not. 1 year later and you still haven't convinced any of us AOTC fans to agree with your issues about this film. We do admire your persistence though. ;)
     
  16. Masterkyp44

    Masterkyp44 Jedi Youngling star 3

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    The clones don't attack?? What movie did you see yodaschum?
     
  17. Jedi_Learner

    Jedi_Learner Jedi Knight star 5

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    "The clones don't actually attack throughout the entire course of the movie."

    Have you actually watched the film? [face_laugh]
     
  18. YodaJeff

    YodaJeff Manager Emeritus star 7 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    After the arena battle, the clones could have easily left. They could have gotten back on their transports, and left Geonosis. However, they continued to "attack" the Sepratists after all the Jedi had been rescued. They already had achieved their mission - to rescue the Jedi. They continued to fight, and attacked the Sepratists, even when they could have just left.
     
  19. AdamBertocci

    AdamBertocci Manager Emeritus star 7 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Because it SOUNDS COOL.

    You might as well ask, why is ESB called The Empire Strikes Back?! The Empire as a whole does nothing after the Battle of Hoth!


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  20. JangoFett316

    JangoFett316 Jedi Youngling star 3

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    much similar to the way "The Phantom Menace", is also not as clear cut.

    The Phantom Menace was as clear cut as you can get. Sidious is manipulating everyone practically in the shadows. A 'phantom menace' is starting problems in the galaxy. If that was hard to understand, it's obvious why you don't get Attack of the Clones.
     
  21. AdamBertocci

    AdamBertocci Manager Emeritus star 7 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Actually, "The Phantom Menace" refers to the ghost of a little boy who used to live in the apartment.

    Wait! That guy was from "Three Men and a Baby". Never mind.


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  22. Guy DuBlanc

    Guy DuBlanc Jedi Youngling star 2

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    The title AOTC was significant because it represented the first time the Republic has raised an army in its history. Prior to this, the Republic had never used military force.

    Thus, the actual "attack of the clones" represents the turning of the tide -- transforming a peaceful Republic into an Evil Empire, under the direction of the phantom menace.

    AOTC the title is not so clear cut. But neither is the entire PT. There is always "more than meets the eye."
     
  23. rsterling78

    rsterling78 Jedi Knight star 5

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    Lucas wanted a title that sounded like an old movie serial. You know, like Commando Cody And The Radar Men From The Moon.

    Attack of the Clones has that old movie serial ring to it.

    Remember when we all thought Episode II was going to be called The Clone Wars?
     
  24. rpeugh

    rpeugh Force Ghost star 4

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    It was called AOTC because the clones are really the bad guys who are later going to aid Palpatine in gaining control of the republic. THem merely being created is what the title means by ATTACK (attack on the democracy of the republic).
     
  25. __Sunrider__

    __Sunrider__ Jedi Youngling star 1

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    technically yes and they called it the beginning of the clone wars. Thats why they named it attack of the clones, its the beginning of the war between clones and the Republic.
     
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