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Why is qui-gon jinn forgoten?

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  1. camifladge2

    camifladge2 Jedi Youngling star 1

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    Every time they realese something qui-gon is not there and in video games they never realesed a game about him. Plus darth maul is everywhere but doesn't show that much. Why is it like this?:confused: :confused:
     
  2. Cryogenic

    Cryogenic Force Ghost star 5

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    If I had to hazard a guess...

    It's because most interactive titles are centered around the Clone Wars and don't generally chart back to the era in which Qui Gon was killed.

    I actually kinda like Qui Gon being this forgotten anomaly - under-exposure retains the character's engima and makes him more appealing.
     
  3. JMN77

    JMN77 Jedi Youngling star 3

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    Qui-Gon was in Jedi Power Battles and TPM game. I know what you're saying though. He's more important to the saga then most games, toys, merchandising, etc. would have you believe. It's a bunch of sith!
     
  4. SkYWaLkAdAjEDi

    SkYWaLkAdAjEDi Jedi Youngling star 1

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    You want the ultimate qui gon action? Get Legos Star Wars
     
  5. Darth_Tweakpiece

    Darth_Tweakpiece Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    If looked at from a purely speculative point of view, Qui Gon was not forgotten...he was training the current masters of the Jedi council on how to live within the force...I'm sure the Jedi who were aware of this had to keep his presence concealed within the force somewhat so that they could complete that training without the Sith recognizing the ripples it must have been causing within the force...
     
  6. Leias_love_slave

    Leias_love_slave Jedi Knight star 5

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    Why is qui-gon jinn forgoten?


    Better yet...


    ...why is the second 't' in 'forgoten' forgotten?:p
     
  7. Lord-Draco

    Lord-Draco Jedi Master star 4

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    Qui-Gon was just a tool character. Then again Darth Maul was just a tool character as well, however Maul has that whole cool/mysterious quality to him where Qui-Gon doesn't.
     
  8. battlewars

    battlewars Jedi Padawan star 4

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    i agree, its funny to read eberts review because he slams the rots sword fights but loves the liam neeson one in rob roy! seems even he forgot that liam was in star wars. qui gon was quite lame as a character, obi shouldve found anakin plain and simple
     
  9. Darth_Tweakpiece

    Darth_Tweakpiece Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    According to ANH, he was the one who found him...
     
  10. ARC-Trooper19

    ARC-Trooper19 Jedi Youngling star 3

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    Qui-Gon in my book is quite a knowledgable character, and was the beginning of the end of the friendship between Anakin and Obi-wan, he is never mentioned again because he has no part in Lukes life, that is obi-wans job, he is not forgotten, just, he is not needed.
     
  11. sepharih

    sepharih Jedi Youngling star 2

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    Qui-Gon was just a tool character.


    Qui-gon was more than a tool character. He was Anakin's Father figure and his death stood as a symbol for the sealing of everyone's fate, because had he lived things would have occured very differently. He may appear to have a relatively small part, but as we have come to understand he has always been watching and looking over everyone, and he has a presence that endures throught the films.



    however Maul has that whole cool/mysterious quality to him where Qui-Gon doesn't.


    Without even going into the part where he becomes the first Jedi to transcend death, Qui-gon was a maverick jedi who stood against many of the flawed teachings of the Jedi order, and was nevertheless well respected by the same council he stood at odds with. Do you think anyone could have gotten Anakin his interview? Don't you find that entire angle as cool as it is mysterious. I want to know what caused him to become as estranged from the order as he was, and what motivated him to remain with them unlike his former master!
    The character is exceptionally mysterious and deep.


    I agree though that the character has been woefully underutilized in virtually every medium of star wars, and worse in the few works that he is in he is extremely misinterpereted. Even in the Novelization of TPM he is completely misunderstood and underused. The Qui-gon Jinn of the Novel is *not the same Qui-gon played by Liam Neeson.

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    qui gon was quite lame as a character, obi shouldve found anakin plain and simple


    Qui-gon is NOT an after thought and he could not have been replaced by Obi-wan. Yes, in earlier versions of the script his actions were performed by Obi-wan and he did not exist until later versions, but Qui-gon was created BECAUSE George Lucas realized Obi-wan COULD NOT perform those actions in TPM. In the OT Obi-wan was set up as the father figure to Luke and the friend/brother of his father Anakin. So Like Owen he was more or less an Uncle.
    In TPM had it been Obi-wan it would have been unavoidable for Obi-wan to become the father figure of Anakin and that would have been strange considering what little we knew about their relationship prior too TPM. The way Obi-wan Speaks of Anakin is more like how one would talk about a brother in arms, not a son. By doing it as it was done he does in fact become the brother of Anakin who cares for and teaches him in the absence of their father. It was a brilliant decision.
     
  12. battlewars

    battlewars Jedi Padawan star 4

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    i dont agree, its a pretty forgettable part, qui gon and obi wan were originally one character and when it was split in half both were diluted. obi and qui gon were both pretty boring in tpm because of this
     
  13. camifladge2

    camifladge2 Jedi Youngling star 1

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    Who cares[face_skull]
     
  14. Obi-Wan-1000

    Obi-Wan-1000 Jedi Master star 4

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    Why is Qui-gon Jinn forgotten?:confused: Darth Maul does not seem forgotten?
    They realsese Darth Maul stuff but no Qui-gon, They had Darth Maul in star wars battlefront 2,They are going to realease an force fx Darth Mual lightsaber, They had a Darth Mual watch and stuff like that but they had not realeased anything Qui-gon and Qui-gon's role was bigger then Darth Mual
     
  15. masterluke9

    masterluke9 Jedi Padawan star 4

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    Qui-Gon= best jedi ever!
     
  16. Sarg_Kulo

    Sarg_Kulo Jedi Master star 4

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    Beat me to it grrrrrrrrrrrrr
     
  17. Haynesworth

    Haynesworth Jedi Youngling

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    Why is Qui-Gonn even created? In the OT Obi-Wan makes it seem like he was Yoda's apprentice, but then in TPM there is this new Qui-Gonn character. I think Yoda could've filled his place as Obi-Wan's master which would've made for more continuity.
     
  18. Darth-Schwartz

    Darth-Schwartz Jedi Master star 4

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    they would have to pay liam some cash i think. and didn't he slam attack of the clones? hmmmmm.
     
  19. JMN77

    JMN77 Jedi Youngling star 3

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    Theres no break in continuity here.
    Yoda was Obi's Master. Yoda was every Jedi's Master.

    It's like your occupation (providing you have one).
    There is usually one overall boss. Then there are a few
    'bosses' under him/her, then the workers. Somtimes with positions
    in between and all that, but I'm just saying that Yoda (and possibly Mace?)
    is the top dog (or Master) who is everybody's Master,
    then the other Masters, who have individual padawans that they are the
    Master's of, and so on.

    So what Obi-Wan said was true.... "from a certain point of view". :p
     
  20. DarthMyBoy

    DarthMyBoy Jedi Youngling star 1

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    I've always wondered why Qui-Gon isnt a hero in Star Wars: Battlefront II

    Afterall, Maul IS a villan in it

    Although, there are already a ton of Jedi in there, I guess Qui-Gon would be unnecessary
     
  21. Kwenn

    Kwenn Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    Even Kit Fisto's in it now, thanks to the upcoming patch. That sucks. I'd rather play as Qui-Gon.

    I think Qui-Gon is a fantastic character. He's nothing like any of the Jedi Councilors, but seems more of what it is we define as a Jedi Knight than any of them. Yoda's quote from Cloak of Deception really sums up the character for me:


    "A true Knight Qui-Gon is. Forever on his own quest".

     
  22. mjerome3

    mjerome3 Jedi Knight star 6

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    The villian is easily remembered because he's the villian. Although we saw Maul more less than Qui-Gon, Maul is remembered because he's a different type of character. The good guys fade away while our memory of the bad guys linger.
     
  23. r8hitman

    r8hitman Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Qui Gon Jinn isnt forgotten.

    He's the greatest jedi from both trilogies, trust me....he is a loooong ways from being forgotten.;)
     
  24. TrueJedi

    TrueJedi Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    Because he was a "throw-away" character that served no other purpose than bringing Anakin into the saga. He was a a character added at the last minute because Lucas didn't think that Ewan could carry the film by himself.
     
  25. AnnLouise

    AnnLouise Jedi Youngling star 3

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    Plus that ubercool double-bladed lightsaber. And a much cooler outfit - except when he was on Tatooine I thought "jeez that has got to be uncomfortable!" He obviously values looking sinsister and spookey over practicality.[face_shame_on_you]
     
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