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Why leia didn't live with Padme's parents?

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  1. JMaster Luke

    JMaster Luke Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Now that the new DVD's are out, we see that Naboo is not destroyed. This made me think, if the planet doesn't get destroyed then maybe Padme's parents dont die. (no spoilers) I dont see any reason for them to die in episode 3. even from the deleted scene anakin seems like he likes padme's parents.

    I dont doubt anakin even as vader would kill them. (dont know any ep.3 spoilers) But however padme dies in episode 3, i doubt anakin does it. And if he doesn't kill padme i doubt he'll want to kill the parents of the girl he loves.

    So instead of leia living with bail and luke living with owen, how come neither of them were given to padme's parents to live there?

    If they dont die in episode 3 the only other reason i could think of why neither of them lived with padme's parents is maybe because that would be a place that Vader would look for them? (that is considering Vader even knows padme was gonna have kids.)
     
  2. NidLoc

    NidLoc Jedi Youngling star 1

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    I think the last reason you gave is the most likely. thats the first place i'd look if I was Vader.
     
  3. DarkSithDrew

    DarkSithDrew Jedi Master star 4

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    that makes sence.
     
  4. Barriss_Rocks

    Barriss_Rocks Jedi Youngling star 2

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    Yeah I agree. The person who hides the twins would take them to places Vader would least likely return to.
     
  5. thecleric007

    thecleric007 Jedi Master star 4

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    But at the same time, that reasoning questions why Luke would have been given to Owen, since he was Anakin's step-brother and all. Plus the whole not-chaning-the-last-name thing.

    It really is an interesting dilemna. Though, actually, they may have stayed away from Naboo because Palpatine was from the planet and thus might hear about the child, while Leia could be hidden better on Alderaan and Luke on the planet farthest from the center of the universe.





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  6. Anonx

    Anonx Jedi Youngling star 1

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    Except Anakin wouldn't return to Tatooine because all the bad memories that planet brings.
     
  7. Tanith_Shire

    Tanith_Shire Jedi Youngling star 1

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    I think Owen agreed to raise Luke more out of love for Shmi than for his barely-known stepbrother. Anakin and Owen only knew each other for a few days aat most and Owen's home on Tatooine was fairly remote. I'd venture to say Owen knew far more about Anakin (from Shmi) than Anakin ever knew about Owen. Plus the Jabba factor - organised crime tends to corrupt and impair the ability of local authorities to function, probably a plus in this case. From ANH it can be assumed that a heavy Imperial presence is unusual on Tatooine - it is not exactly a valuable planet and I can't imagine the population being huge. As for the Skywalker name - well Anakin grew up there, Shmi lived for years at the Lars farm, and those looking into things might have thought it a distant relation or a coicidence - remember Jedi were not known to marry and have kids. PLUS as a general rule the further you are in the boondocks, the less people care about creating/maintaining official records.
     
  8. Kabal

    Kabal Jedi Grand Master star 2

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    Something else to consider is that Anakin may not have known until Luke was grown that his children were even alive. If he assumes Padme dies, he may conclude that she died before giving birth.
     
  9. Darth_Digital

    Darth_Digital Jedi Padawan star 4

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    I've thought about this for a while myself.

    Now, providing that the Emperor didn't have his minions track down and destroy Padme's family;

    (If just cause their related to the one that opposed him so much in the Senate)

    I wouldn't be surprised in the least if the family was kept under CONSTANT Imperial observation.

    Remember this is also Palpatine's home planet. He'd want his old stomping grounds well taken care of I'm sure.

    Besides, if the family was being watched the sudden appearance of this newborn not of the family would eventually get back to Palpatine and Vader.

    Then it'd be a race to which one got to Leia or Luke first.
     
  10. 89TG43IVN09SA

    89TG43IVN09SA Jedi Youngling

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    Because the PT is crap.
     
  11. Atticus

    Atticus Jedi Padawan star 4

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    Why leia didn't live with Padme's parents?

    Because neither, Bail, Ben, or Yoda know about her parents. Anakin is the only person to meet them in the movies. Also if Yoda, Bail, and Ben feel responsible for what happened I'm sure they don't trust anybody else to look after them except themselves. Of course we all just need to wait and see for ourselves next summer, but that is my take on it.
     
  12. Shiro

    Shiro Jedi Youngling star 3

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    "Because the PT is crap."

    That was an amazing contribution to this thread...:rolleyes:
     
  13. Charlie-Chan

    Charlie-Chan Jedi Youngling

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    Vader wouldn't have looked for her there, because he didn't know she was alive until the end of E6. But I guess if you want to be technical, if he did find out before that, that would be at least one place he'd look...
     
  14. JONJEDI

    JONJEDI Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    Does Padme die in Episode 3? I don't know any spoilers but I always thought she went to Alderan with Bail and she died when Leia was very Young like she said, I mean how is Leia supposed to remember Padme if she died when she was only a few days old?
     
  15. BombadGeneral

    BombadGeneral Jedi Youngling

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    From ANH it can be assumed that a heavy Imperial presence is unusual on Tatooine - it is not exactly a valuable planet and I can't imagine the population being huge.


    I'm not sure that's true. At the time of TPM, Tatooine is under the control of the Hutts, but is that true by ANH? In the Holiday Special (which takes place between ANH and ESB) the Empire imposes a curfew which requires the Cantina to shut down early.

    (Yeah, I just used the Holiday Special to argue a point. So what?)


    And... Padme's parents? Did we see Padme's parents in these movies?

    (Deleted scenes don't count. If they did, we would have to believe that characters said the exact same thing to each other twice - in different locations.)

    Do we know anything about Padme's parents from the release versions of the films?
     
  16. Atticus

    Atticus Jedi Padawan star 4

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    Because the PT is crap.

    I wonder if he'll be saying this after he sees how amazing ROTS is.

    JONJEDI: Leia and Padme could share a moment before she dies. Mayne she holds her breifly or they just look into eachother's eyes, I bet Leia also could have remembered her through the force.

    PS. I like your sig.
     
  17. jengafett

    jengafett Jedi Padawan star 4

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    however padme dies in episode 3

    whoops, that has to be releasing one of the biggest spoilers out. Be more careful next time ay?

    Why Leia doesn't live with them because that would be the first place Vader would look, Anakin seemed to like Obi-Wan, Owen & Beru, but he kills all of them.
     
  18. lomion

    lomion Jedi Youngling star 3

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    Well their placement does make sense.

    Luke on Tattoine is almost like hiding in plain site. Vader would not want to return there unless he had too. A lot of very bad things happened to Anakin there, so avoiding there is natural.

    As for Leia. You would want to have her from as far from anything Padme related as possible. If she was with her grandparents then it would be easy to trace her lineage. Putting her with bail as his daughter was genius. It hides who she is, also in plain sight. Plus when they do meet, she never did anything to actually make it seem like she could be his daughter. Perhaps they detected some light force sensitivity in her, but I imagine that was not so uncommon. Now when you have Luke show up, blow up the death star, be seen with Obi-Wan, and have a noteable force presence, you start looking. I am curious when Vader knew who Luke was.
     
  19. thecleric007

    thecleric007 Jedi Master star 4

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    <i>however padme dies in episode 3

    whoops, that has to be releasing one of the biggest spoilers out. Be more careful next time ay?</i>

    I don't think that's really much of a spoiler, since it's been known for something that Padme does die not too long after the twins are born.

    Also, I think deleted scenes should have some say in canon, since they were part of the original script and part of the novelization. And thus Anakin did meet Padme's family on Naboo.





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  20. DarthLazious

    DarthLazious Jedi Youngling star 4

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    Liea would not be safe on Naboo thats why.
     
  21. CodyMonKenobi

    CodyMonKenobi Jedi Master star 4

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    there are two reasons I think.

    1) The most obvious, Palpatine is also from Naboo.

    2) Ben and Yoda are already taking a chance leaving Luke on Tatooine, with his fathers last name. I think Leia was completely anonymos just in case something happened with Luke.
     
  22. KypDuron

    KypDuron Jedi Youngling star 1

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    what?!?!..there's a plot-hole?...I don't belive it for one minute :p

    This question is much like one of my own....

    If the Jedi Council feared training Anakin because of the emotions that he had for his mother...WHY DIDNT THEY GO SAVE HER?!?! Free her forcibly..buy her freedom...either way, they could have solved their own problem :)
     
  23. Super_Secret_Mario

    Super_Secret_Mario Jedi Youngling star 1

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    Because Jedi are not supposed to have any contact with their parents (that way they won't become attached).
     
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