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Why make Super Battle Droids?

Discussion in 'Archive: Attack of the Clones' started by Jabba_The_Hutt_123, Apr 5, 2004.

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  1. Jabba_The_Hutt_123

    Jabba_The_Hutt_123 Jedi Master star 3

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    Why didn't the separatists just make destroyer droids, battle droids and the spider droids etc. Destroyers are obviously bettre than super battle droids.
     
  2. MasterAero

    MasterAero Jedi Master star 4

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    Usually better means more expensive and harder to make. If all the droids were the same cost and easy to make, they might have only made the best. There may have been some roles the reg droids could do that the destroyers could not.
    And Lucas wanted to have some variety to make it more interesting. (The real answer)
     
  3. That_Wascally_Droid

    That_Wascally_Droid Jedi Knight star 6

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    Destroyer droids are powerful, yes. But they're also slow and have akward transportation (rolling then tripod crawling).
    Destroyers proved a match for Obi-Wan and Qui-Gon because they were each facing the shielded side. To best one, a Jedi would only have to get behind it.
    With Supers, they can at least turn around and face the enemy.
    They combine the mobility of battle droids with the firepower of destroyers (mot as powerful, but rapid shots at least). So supers wouldn't be a bad deal.
     
  4. Bib Fortuna Twi'lek

    Bib Fortuna Twi'lek Jedi Youngling star 10

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    To best one, a Jedi would only have to get behind it.

    The destroyer droids were shielded on all sides.
     
  5. GrandAdmiral_Frank

    GrandAdmiral_Frank Jedi Padawan star 4

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    I believe the Super Battle droids were more armored than a regular battle droid and they may have been just produced and Geonosis could have been a testing a grounbd? Probably something the EU will do or not.
     
  6. Go-Mer-Tonic

    Go-Mer-Tonic Jedi Youngling star 6

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    Super battle droids have the same framework as regular battledroids, they are just more heavily armored and they have built in guns on their wrists.
     
  7. lhasgalen

    lhasgalen Jedi Youngling star 1

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    Yes, the Droidekas were shielded on all sides. If anyone would take not of EU and read their descriptions, Destroyer droid's are the biggest threat the Jedi face in the Trade Federation. They're essentially Jedi killers, whereas the simple, spindly and more skeletal battle droids are the fodder of the Seppie army.

    To address your question on Why make Super Battle Droids?, I think it comes down to the fact that they're a considerable upgrade from the regular battle droid, allowing the Seppie's to use them in different military operations accordingly. Just as the Grand Army of the Republic used different types of clones for different specialities (ARC Trooper, underwater, etc.), a platoon of Super Battle Droid allows for a more effective spearhead in any small-unit combat. They are, if you watch the arena battle in Attack of the Clones, the most numerable when the Jedi survivors are surrounded and pushed into a circle. Their armor is considerably better than battle droids and their weapons are faster and secured to their arm appendages so that the Jedi couldn't yank them away.

    So essentially, Super Battle Droids aren't exactly the Jedi-killers the Droidekas are, but they're a superior weapon in the war against the Jedi.
     
  8. lhasgalen

    lhasgalen Jedi Youngling star 1

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  9. Jabba_The_Hutt_123

    Jabba_The_Hutt_123 Jedi Master star 3

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    But there are still very few super battle droids in relation to battle droids, the supers could instead be used to make destroyers.
     
  10. lhasgalen

    lhasgalen Jedi Youngling star 1

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    huh? Supers make destroyers? The Geonosians made them; they didn't make each other.
     
  11. Lord_Imperius

    Lord_Imperius Jedi Youngling star 1

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    Were the Destroyers on Geonosis shielded? Because I don?t recall seeing any shields around them. Maybe the cost of building shields into them just became prohibitive, meaning that they would have to rely on their narrow profiles and speed to avoid being hit.

    As for the original question, I imagine the SPDs would be not too much more expensive than BDs but obviously a good deal more efficient, especially with the rapid fire and more accurate blasters.

    GrandAdmiral_Frank may have a point that Geonosis would have probably been a testing ground for them, they would have pretty new at the time of the battle.
     
  12. Jabba_The_Hutt_123

    Jabba_The_Hutt_123 Jedi Master star 3

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    I meant they could use the resources needed for supers to instead make destroyers.
     
  13. Jabba_The_Hutt_123

    Jabba_The_Hutt_123 Jedi Master star 3

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    Good point Lord_Imperius, if the shields are not 'standard issue' then it would explain why they made made super battle droids as they are much more efficent than unshielded destroyers.
     
  14. lhasgalen

    lhasgalen Jedi Youngling star 1

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    The Droidekas on Geonosis were unshielded? Didn't notice that.

    Guess that gives me an excuse to go back and watch AOTC again!
     
  15. Jabba_The_Hutt_123

    Jabba_The_Hutt_123 Jedi Master star 3

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    In episode 1 they weren't shielded either were they, because Jar Jar destroys one with the battle droid stuck on his foot in the final battle.
     
  16. lhasgalen

    lhasgalen Jedi Youngling star 1

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    No, in EP1 they were definetly shielded? Anyone remember Qui-Gon and Obi-Wan and their standoff in front of the blast door?

    Maybe the shields had been overpowered, because of so many hits. Isn't it possible to overwehlm the shields with blasterfire? I mean, in every Lucasarts game I play, whenever I'm controlling a vehicle with shields, it's always possible for them to be overloaded and disabled.
     
  17. BaronFel88

    BaronFel88 Jedi Knight star 7

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    I love Super Battle Droids! The contempt they have for their inferior cousins is hilarious (like when it knocks over a regular battle droid).
    Seriously speaking, I think they're pretty effective, the only problem the Confederacy had was a vast disadvantage in the air.
     
  18. fosh-bantus88

    fosh-bantus88 Jedi Padawan star 4

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    super battle droids are smarter and have better firepower than regular battle droids, but are cheaper to make and transport than destroyers.
     
  19. lhasgalen

    lhasgalen Jedi Youngling star 1

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    super battle droids are smarter and have better firepower than regular battle droids, but are cheaper to make and transport than destroyers.

    Um, how do you know this?
     
  20. JohnWesleyDowney

    JohnWesleyDowney Jedi Master star 5

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    Which ones are the Destroyer Droids?
     
  21. BaronFel88

    BaronFel88 Jedi Knight star 7

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    [image=http://www.angelfire.com/geek/dffqi/DFFQI_j_DD.JPG]
     
  22. JohnWesleyDowney

    JohnWesleyDowney Jedi Master star 5

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    Thanks Baron! That was quick service! :)
     
  23. lhasgalen

    lhasgalen Jedi Youngling star 1

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    lol, it was. Personally, I think the introduction of the Droidekas was specifically so that the Jedi would have a worthy adversary in the droid army, otherwise, they'd work the battle droids' asses like they were wads of cookie dough.
     
  24. fosh-bantus88

    fosh-bantus88 Jedi Padawan star 4

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    super battle droids are smarter and have better firepower than regular battle droids, but are cheaper to make and transport than destroyers.

    Um, how do you know this?


    because SBDs have multiple blasters that are built into their arms and are more aggressive in combat (pushing aside regular droids, aiming accurately at windu)

    they are also less complex, smaller, and therefore, weigh less than destroyers, making them more cost effective.
     
  25. doctoryoda

    doctoryoda Jedi Master star 7

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    What they should do is make more super battle droids and less battle droids, which is what they're doing. If you're not going to have sbd, then why have normal battle droids or clonetroopers?
     
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