Why no kama/legion markings for Stormtroopers?

Why don't any stormtroopers seen in the classic trilogy have colored legion markings or ARC/Clone Commander style waistcoats? Did Palpatine just say "Look, we're an evil Empire now, we can't have you seem like individual badasses with hearts of gold. And sorry, but I've never been too hot on those dresses." "It's called Kama, your magi..." *outspoken clone erupts into lightning*

 

I think the in-universe answer is that Palpatine had the clones stripped of any vestiges of their hard-earned identities after the war (as well as their specialist units), going for faceless conformity.

 

^^^Sounds about right.

 

Also, IIRC, it was that they wanted every squad to look the same, whether they be fresh out of the academy, or veterans of many battle. That way you never knew what you were up against, and thus less likely to step out of line, especially when it came to the non-clone stormtroopers post ROTJ.

 

Well the colors didn't denote experience so much as specific groups. Someone fresh out of the academy could be assigned to the 501st, and would still wear blue.

 

Its 'supposedly' very daunting to see a well trained, disciplined army coming towards you, and the uniformity of the clothing adds to that.

 

Why did the clone armoursuit change between 2nd and 3rd movies?

A merchandising lure, like all the new and over cluttered ships and vehicles?

 

Oh knock it off.

The actual armour has not in fact changed at all between films, apart from the helmets, changed to make them less like the source (Jango/Mandalorians) and more like the OT troopers, the in-universe explanation being that Seppie chemical weapon use demands increased NBC protection, which the Phase II helmets are more effective at providing.

 

The suits changed because "supposedly" the Senate felt simpathy for the clones not being able to have independence or whatever and decided that the Clone Commanders could change/customize their armor/helmets and gear to fit their specifications and that they could change the armor/helmets of their entire Legion, and yes, their armor DID change, i read that the Phase-2 armor is more lightweight and more protective and had a better comm system the that of the Phase-1 armor, which didn't block or protect a damn thing.

 

Interesting.

 

EU aside, the actual design in the movies hasn't changed.

 

As evidenced by the fact that EP III clone trooper action figures are simply Clone Wars-series sculpts with a new helmet.

 

Remember that the Stormtroopers had colored shoulderpads. Obviously Palpatine recognized the immense powers of Kyle Katarn shoulderpad and sought to duplicate it

 

The OT stormie armor may also reflect the move away from the Mando tradition of the original clonies. As the Jango clones came to be replaced by non-Jango clones or, more awesomely, non-clone troopers, they lost that direct link to the Mandalorian warriors, replacing it with a complete dedication the Emperor and the Empire. Perhaps the next-gen stormie armor would bear a stronger resemblence to the old Sith troopers?

 

I also wonder when exactly they changed from Phase 2 clone armor to the stormtrooper style one.

 

[Uncle Rico]You know what Excellence? You can leave.[Uncle Rico/]

Seriously, if you hate every facet of Star Wars, why stay? There's plenty of other scifi franchises out there.

 

Near the end of the Clone Wars

 

Phase 2 is what the ROTS clones wear. I was wondering at what point in the years between ROTS and ANH that they started wearing the old suits we all know and love.

 

This from the self-proclaimed "clone expert?"

 

I wasn't reading it right, i thought it was the other way around, and no i don't, storm armor probably comes around a few years after ROTS, this isn't an accurate reading though it may be explained when the armor change happened in upcoming novels.
Besides, they're STORM troopers, not CLONE troopers, i thought you would know/understand this, my two-legged friend .

 

24 months ABG, tho the swaparound was slow - Phase I was still in use as far into the war as 30 months ABG, at Praesitlyn.

 

Aren't clones officially Stormtroopers though? I would've thought that the "Clone Troopers" moniker was only in place to differentiate them from their OT descendants.

 

I thought I was expressing a query, RogueWompRat. Don't let subterranean dementia subvert your lust for defacing a Cosmopolitan cover.

 

While the artists and animators took considerable liberties with appearances in the Droids cartoons, wasn't the armor depicted as stormtrooper armor at that point? And those were set 15 years BBY, only 5 years after RotS.

And as for different coloration, would Blackhole's black-armored stormtroopers count? I mean, it's not kamas or anything, but doesn't that signify a particular grouping?

 

Blackholes would count, I should think. Don't forget Lumiya's red stormtroopers, which were Royal Guard IIRC. They're also seen in Super Empire Strikes Back. Additionally, the Coruscant guard had a special armor variant.

The shoulder pads on OT era stormtroopers are similar in purpose to Phase I clone markings: they denote rank and purpose (railgun trooper, repeater trooper, etc.) Also, some backwater squads of Stormies did choose to customize their armor, as seen in some WEG sources.