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Why was Naboo so darn important?

Discussion in 'Prequel Trilogy' started by millenniumteacher, Jun 15, 2005.

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  1. millenniumteacher

    millenniumteacher Jedi Youngling star 2

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    Why out of all the planets in the galaxy was this peaceful little nation of Naboo so important?
    Thoughts?
     
  2. lrdmonarch

    lrdmonarch Jedi Youngling star 3

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    Some guy named Palpatine came from there.
     
  3. MOC Vober Dand

    MOC Vober Dand Manager Emeritus star 5 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Yes indeedy.
     
  4. YoungAngus

    YoungAngus Jedi Master star 5

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    never heard of him.
     
  5. classixboy

    classixboy Jedi Padawan star 4

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    But did he really come from Naboo? Or did Sidious only "Create" the idea that some guy named Palpatine grew up on Naboo and became its most famous son? And if so, why did Sidious choose Naboo, of all places?
     
  6. The-D

    The-D Jedi Master star 4

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    Palpatine knew Queen Amidala. He knew that if there was turmoil on her planet, she would cast a vote of no confidence in Chancellor's Valorum's leadership, thereby giving Palps his ticket to power.
     
  7. classixboy

    classixboy Jedi Padawan star 4

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    Right, but Sidious' plot started long before Amidala came to power.

    Could it be, though, that Sidious chose to prey on Naboo precisely because it had a tradition of electing children to the monarchy?

    It turns out unfortunately for him that in Amidala, he finds a child that is no so easily manipulated.
     
  8. The-D

    The-D Jedi Master star 4

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    But she was obviously easily manipulated. She called for the vote.

    Also, Amidala was the youngest Queen in the history of Naboo. So I think that rules out the planet's history of electing children to power.

     
  9. The-D

    The-D Jedi Master star 4

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    "Right, but Sidious' plot started long before Amidala came to power. "


    How do you know when Palp's plot started? Even if his polt started a millenium before TPM (which after ROTS is apparently concievable), his plans may have changed along the way. After hearing word of Padme's transition to Queen, this was the entire reason for Sidious to order the blockade by the TF, and then the invasion into Naboo, forcing Amidala to call for aid from the Senate, there by being "manipulated" by Sidious into calling the vote.
     
  10. classixboy

    classixboy Jedi Padawan star 4

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    True, but Sidious/Palpatine had to manipulate her himself, and only after his initial plan failed: to have the Trade Federation force her sign the treaty legalizing their occupation of Naboo.

    But even after Amidala, we see that the elected queens are all young, and perhaps more intriguingly, that they are all young women. Perhaps Sidious was preying upon this tradition of young female monarchs, in which case we can identify him as a male chauvinist Sith.
     
  11. The-D

    The-D Jedi Master star 4

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    "But even after Amidala, we see that the elected queens are all young, and perhaps more intriguingly, that they are all young women. Perhaps Sidious was preying upon this tradition of young female monarchs, in which case we can identify him as a male chauvinist Sith."


    What Queen is not a woman?!?! [face_laugh]


    We're not even sure of Jamilla's age. She may be in her 30's or 40's for all we know. The only fact we know is that Padme was 14 when she was queen, and she was the youngest.

    The only plausible reason Palps would choose Naboo, is because he is the Senator of Naboo, and has close ties with the Queen.

     
  12. Bacon164

    Bacon164 Chosen One star 8

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    "I wasn't the youngest Queen ever elected."


    :confused:
     
  13. classixboy

    classixboy Jedi Padawan star 4

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    Me.

    But more to the point, I was merely emphasizing the possibility that gender was an issue in terms of Sidious' ideas about what kind of people are most easily manipulated.

    I concede that point, but the queen at the end of ROTS is another young woman.

    But you're confusing Palpatine and Sidious. Do you really think that Darth Sidious was a native of Naboo? I don't. The character of Palpatine is a complete fabrication.
     
  14. The-D

    The-D Jedi Master star 4

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    Not true. Palpatine is his name as far as G-Level canon goes (Per GL). As far as we know, he was born with the name Palpatine. He wasn't born a Sith Lord. He was given the title, Darth Sidious, just as Anakin was named Darth Vader. But, I'm not saying Palps was born on Naboo or anything.

    All we know from TPM is that Palpatine was the Senator of Naboo, and like I said before, since being Senator, he knew he could persuade Padme to call the vote to get Finis Valorum out of office, allowing Palps to recieve a nomination for the succession of the position, advancing one step closer to creating his empire.

     
  15. Darth-Tater

    Darth-Tater Jedi Youngling star 1

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    Naboo is important because Jar Jar lives there
     
  16. classixboy

    classixboy Jedi Padawan star 4

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    How do you know this?

    I agree. Whoever "he" is.

    Which begs the question, why does "he" choose Naboo as the site where he will hatch his plan(s)?
     
  17. sword_of_raditz

    sword_of_raditz Jedi Knight star 5

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    In Episode III it says that Sideous had a Sith master. Sith were "destroyed" 1,000 years ago before TPM. Somewhere along that line Sideous was trained, then got a pupil. By the time Sideous appears in TPM, he's older then can be. Which would get people thinking... "Why is he so old? Only Yoda can do that, and Palpatine isn't small and green!" Idea! Make a Palpatine guy come from Naboo! Since Naboo is such a small and worthless planet, I can rise the ranks in secret! Then it's a sudden but not worried thing I'm senator! Clone Wars? Yahoo! Everything is working...Muahahahaha!
     
  18. The-D

    The-D Jedi Master star 4

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    "How do you know this"

    Direct quote from SW.com (Official):

    "Palpatine was the supreme ruler of the most powerful tyrannical regime the galaxy had ever witnessed, yet his roots are extremely humble, traced back to the peaceful world of Naboo."


    You cannot argue that any further. That is from GL himself.

    Palpatine's roots trace back to Naboo.

    He becomes the Senator of Naboo.

    This is why he chose Naboo.



     
  19. classixboy

    classixboy Jedi Padawan star 4

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    Of course, that's just the party line. And you apparently believe it. You're like one of the senators. Do you also believe that Palpatine was "disfigured" during the "assassination attempt"? Listen to sword_of_raditz you must.
     
  20. Grand_Theft_Autumn

    Grand_Theft_Autumn Jedi Youngling star 1

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    Naboo is important for many reasons. You cann see all of these reasons in a Star Wars movie called The Phantom Menace!
     
  21. Circle_Is_Complete

    Circle_Is_Complete Jedi Youngling star 3

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    Not only was it possible he helped Padme become elected at such a young age on purpose, it helps that it had a weak military system and relied on diplomacy
     
  22. DellowFelegate

    DellowFelegate Jedi Youngling star 1

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    Everyone is forgetting an important aspect. Sidious needs more than just for Valorum to seem incompetent and be forced out of office. He needs 'Palpatine' to be the replacement chosen. That's why he chooses Naboo, which Palpatine represents, as the victim of the Trade Federation. Of all the worlds in the GFFA, only Naboo's victimization would generate a sympathy vote such that Palpatine would be the natural choice to replace Valorum.
     
  23. The-D

    The-D Jedi Master star 4

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    Party Line?!?! That's G-Level Canon. That is the way it is(.)

    But, with the perspective you've provided ^, I guess my only options are to either believe the creator of Star Wars's explantion of his own characters that he came up with from his own imagination, of which this entire TFN site is based on (G-Level Canon, which takes precedent over all Novels, Comics, Small screen SW [All C-Level Canon], and all fan speculation),

    or just dilute myself by being swayed by a wayward fan to the unlikely chance of it being remotely possible that for no apparent reason, George Lucas's other personality is lying to him about Palpatine's past.
     
  24. Circle_Is_Complete

    Circle_Is_Complete Jedi Youngling star 3

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    Good point Dellow
     
  25. POTAStar

    POTAStar Jedi Grand Master star 2

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    I think a lot of you missed the recent thread called TPM Master Plan. It went deep into discussions like this. Go here:

    TPM Master Plan
     
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