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Why Was Quinlan Vos on Tatooine in TPM?

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  1. JarJarPlagueis

    JarJarPlagueis Jedi Youngling star 1

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    If you don't blink, you'll see everyone's favorite Order 66 survivor, Master Quinlan Vos, in a VERY brief cameo in TMP, sitting at a table watching the scuffle between JarJar and Sebulba. Was a story ever published explaining why he was on Tatooine in the first place? Tatooine isn't the centre of the galaxy. It's supposed to be the middle of nowhere, and all of its significance is derived from the fact that it's Anakin's home planet.

    So does anyone know why he's there? My baseless speculation is that he felt the vergence in The Force (Anakin) and decided to investigate. Perhaps upon seeing Master Qui-Gonn, he decided that he didn't need to pursue the matter further? It would have been interesting it Quinlan had discovered him and taken him as his Padawan. How would Anakin have fared with Quinlan for his Master? Would he have gone to the Dark Side? Would he even have met Padme or Palpatine?

    Has this question ever been addressed on these forums before? Does anyone have any thoughts?

     
  2. Malikail

    Malikail Jedi Padawan star 4

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    i'm sure it's been discussed but i'm not sure what the story line answer is. It's funny because the real answer is that a background character in TPM was turned into an EU jedi. TPM came first, then Vos came later from it. it does seem to me that he's popular, one day i'll get to read a book or comic book for enjoyment again /sigh.
     
  3. Jaden-Skywalker

    Jaden-Skywalker Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    He's out there undercover. He wants to help Qui-Gon but cannot, because it would blow his cover.
     
  4. JarJarPlagueis

    JarJarPlagueis Jedi Youngling star 1

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    Even GL likes him. I read on here somewhere that he asked Dark Horse not to kill, presumably so he could use him in the TV series. I hope he's not only in it, but the main character.
     
  5. WEEBACCA

    WEEBACCA Jedi Padawan star 4

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    Bet he was dead scared that Qui-Gon would blow his cover. ;)
     
  6. RebelScum77

    RebelScum77 Manager Emeritus star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    It's common knowledge that a character called Quinlan Vos was created from an interesting looking alien in TPM. The OS Databank has a long EU entry for him, but nothing that mentions Tatooine. I'm not sure that particular story has been told retroactively for him, but if it has, it would definitely be in the comics.

    I hope he's in the TV series as well, he's definitely one of the most interesting EU characters.
     
  7. Flames

    Flames Jedi Master star 2

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    Hey, that's a neat idea! I hope that story is true and that Vos ends up a major character in the TV series, because he is interesting.





    Master Vos - he's cool
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  8. Kwenn

    Kwenn Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    Aayla mentions it in The Stark Hyperspace War. She says that, had Quinlan known of Qui-Gon's plight, he would have aided him. It's presumed they were tracing leads on the glitteryll problem and other, larger concerns, as, following TPM, Vos turns up on Nar Shaddaa having accumulated information that would "shake the Galactic Senate".
     
  9. Darth_Joshy

    Darth_Joshy Jedi Youngling star 1

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    What? He survived Order 66? The comic clearly getting hit by the tank. So is he all burnt up now?
     
  10. Kel_El

    Kel_El Jedi Master

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    It's NOT master Vos.... But the character in TPM is the insperation for him in the comic books.



    Remember.... Vos is around the same age as Obi-Wan.
     
  11. darth-sinister

    darth-sinister Manager Emeritus star 10 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Here's the deal. John Ostrander and Jan Duursama (sp) were going to expand on his death scene. But they had an idea for his surviving. Lucas said yes to letting him live, so he did. What happened and it's clear when you read the ROTS comic, is that the blast hit the tank he was standing on and sent him in the air and on to the ground. He lived, but was seriously injured.

    The following is from Wookieepeedia:

    Regarding Tatooine.

    It is known that in 32 BBY, Vos was in Mos Espa on Tatooine on an undercover mission, at the same time Qui-Gon Jinn found himself temporarily stranded there. Vos later mused that, had he been aware of Qui-Gon's plight, he would undoubtedly aided him in reaching Coruscant.

    The nature of the mission was never talked about. Regarding his surviving Order 66.

    Quinlan Vos surveying the Battle of Kashyyyk before and during the execution of Order 66. On Saleucami, Quinlan fought alongside Aayla as part of the forces led by Oppo Rancisis, sent to prevent the Morgukai clones from leaving the planet. The death of Rancisis at the hands of Bulq placed Vos in overall command of the Republic forces on the battle.

    Infiltrating the Separatist base, Vos killed Skorr, and confronted Bulq. He eventually faced his inner demons, accepting the fact that darkness would live forever in his soul, and killed Bulq as a Jedi. Though Vos agreed to lead a battalion on Boz Pity, he intended to leave the Jedi Order at the end of the Clone Wars, whereupon he would find Khaleen Hentz, who was pregnant with his child.

    General Vos led a mission to Boz Pity, though was transferred to Kashyyyk following the Second Battle of Coruscant. While there, he, along with Luminara Unduli and Wookiee Elder Gumbaeki, freed a number of Wookiees from Trandoshan enslavement. Near the end of the conflict, Quinlan's group were cornered and considering retreat when the Inferno blasted in and saved them. Quinlan introduced the Wookiees to their savior, Vilmarh Grahrk, along with his new co-pilot, Chak. Because of his previous travels with Villie, Quinlan was given full access to the Inferno, which he used to access Villie's recent navigational charts. He discovered that Villie had been using the Clatuvaac Guild hyperspace routes mentioned by a wounded Trandoshan, leading Vos to believe Villie had stolen the information. However, Quinlan learned that Chak had provided the routes after stowing away on a run Villie was carrying out for the Wookiees.

    Quinlan went on to play a part in the Second Battle of Kashyyyk. When Order 66 was transmitted to the clone commanders throughout the Galaxy, Quinlan was on the overseer's platform of a Juggernaut, and a neighboring tank fired on him and destroyed the tank he had been standing on.

    Although believed dead, Vos emerged from the explosion badly wounded, but alive. His right arm was broken and bloody and his lungs burned. Upon learning of the betrayal of his troops, Quinlan realized his priority was to survive in the jungles of Kashyyyk. He knew also that if this betrayal had occurred on Kashyyyk, then it had happened elsewhere. He vowed to escape Kashyyyk and track down the second Sith Lord he had been searching for during the war, and bring an end to the dominion of the dark side.

    Quinlan Vos escaped into the woods of Kashyyyk, eluding the clone troopers of Bogey Squad, who had been deployed to locate and kill him. He clung to his training as a Jedi through his pain, using lessons taught by Yoda, Mace Windu, and Count Dooku to overcome his clone opponents. He was eventually tracked by Clone Commander Faie, who told Quinlan that if he didn't come out of hiding, Faie would call in an airstrike and kill himself, Quinlan, and the neighboring Wookiee village. Quinlan made up his mind that he couldn't run and hide, that he would never track down the second Sith Lord, and that his destiny was to stop Faie and protect the innocent Wookiees. Quinlan ju
     
  12. Carnage04

    Carnage04 Jedi Knight star 5

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    Don't quote me on this, but I believe the recent releases of TPM have an actor credited with portraying Master Vos (I think I read that in another thread). I believe it's a pretty poor way to shoehorn someone into one of the films randomly because people wanted it to be Vos, but it seems like a lot of people wanted it to be that way.

    Carnage
     
  13. Kwenn

    Kwenn Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    I don't believe so, but the guy has been acknowledged in the EU as Vos.
     
  14. JarJarPlagueis

    JarJarPlagueis Jedi Youngling star 1

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    It's my understanding, and I too can be mistaken, that the EU Jedi named Quinlan Vos was based on the background character who briefly appears in TPM. Since that character had no other name or story, I don't see why the EU can't expand upon him and turn him into a Jedi. Look what they did with Aurra Sing!

    As for Quinlan not knowing Qui-Gonn was there, he must be pretty dumb, because Qui-Gonn appears at the end of the Sebulba/JarJar fight to pick him up. Since it's already well-established in the EU that Quinlan Obi-Wan knew each other since they were Padawans, I think the best explanation is that Quinlan was undercover so he didn't want to say anything to Qui-Gonn, while Qui-Gonn didn't notice him. Remember that Quinlan uses a great degree of stealth.

    While we're on this topic, I know there has been a lot of discussion in these forums as to which fight should be considered "The Duel?" My vote goes for JarJar / Sebulba.
     
  15. darth-sinister

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    Quinlan recognized Qui-gon, but didn't know that he needed help. Vos had been on Tatooine long enough that he acquired sufficent funds to pay for the parts, without the podrace. As to the whole thing with the origin of Vos, here's how it goes. While working on the then new monthly series, John and Jan saw the character sitting near Sebulba. They liked his look so much that they used it to create a Jedi character named Quinlan Vos, who would become a central character for the bulk of the monthly series. Sharing the spotlight with the film characters, as well as some eu creations. In the film itself, the extra is not credited as Quinlan Vos. Along the way, Lucas saw the designs for Aayla Secura and used her for AOTC, seeing as she was a Jedi Twi'lek. Both of which he liked. He did see Vos in action and read some of the comic stuff, when he had time. So he planned to include him as a cameo, but they never around to filming it. But the reference was left in. The comic adapation featured his death. But since John and Jan weren't involved in the comic, they were surprised to see how his death went down. They wanted to give him a more meaningful death. Along the way, Lucas said it was okay to let him live.
     
  16. JarJarPlagueis

    JarJarPlagueis Jedi Youngling star 1

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    Tell me if I'm wrong, but isn't it true that the only scene that was scripted with Quinlan's appearance was his death scene? If so, it made more sense not to film it because he'd be the only Jedi in the Order 66 montage who not only didn't otherwise appear in ROTS, but really didn't appear in the movies at all! He wasn't Quinlan in TPM any more than Vader was Father Skywalker in ANH. It's all retconned.
     
  17. darth-sinister

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    Yes, Vos only had the one scene. But the point is that his scene would've been both a cameo and an easter egg. Something for the fans the same way Aayla was in AOTC. She only carried on to ROTS, because Lucas liked her overall design and she was a Lucasfilm employee to start with.
     
  18. Alpha-Red

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    I like how Qui-Gon asked "Is there anyone friendly to the Republic who can help us?" when the whole time there was a fellow Jedi Knight onworld, and in the same freaking city.

    On another note, if the whole idea of them being on Tatooine was to be stranded in the middle of nowhere, then wasn't putting Quinlan there kinda detrimental to that theme?
     
  19. Carnage04

    Carnage04 Jedi Knight star 5

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    The whole "Quinlon Vos is a master at stealth" makes the situation dumber. If he was so stealthy, why didn't he stealthily contact Qui-Gon to see what in the hell is was doing on Tatooine sans his Padawan with a Gungan, a pretty little girl, and a little boy. It would be hard to convince me that Vos would have thought whatever Qui-gon was doing was normal. Jedi probably weren't well known for dragging young kids through dangerous backwoods planet cities.

    Carnage
     
  20. Katana_Geldar

    Katana_Geldar Jedi Grand Master star 8

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    Quinlan Vos is defineiely one of the more intersting character even though his name is only mentioned one in reference to Boz Pity.

    Wasn't Khaleen pregnant with his child towards the end of the Clone Wars?
     
  21. darth-sinister

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    Because Vos didn't think Qui-gon needed his help. He assumed that Obi-wan was working alone, elsewhere on the planet. Vos knows the two of them well and knows how often the two work together and separately on the same mission.

    Yes and the child was born. That information was in my earlier post which talked about his surviving Order 66.
     
  22. Dark_Disciple

    Dark_Disciple Jedi Master star 3

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    Why was Quinlan Vos on Tatooine in TPM?

    To make TPM bearable for a few seconds more than it otherwise would have been. To be fair, I liked all the Maul scenes and the three-way duel, but this movie needed all the help it could get, imho. [face_peace]

    Quinlan Vos-A great EU character, loved him in the Clone Wars graphic novels. Great to read he might still be alive...
     
  23. darth-sinister

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    At least for twenty years. Beyond that, it's hard to tell.
     
  24. Carnage04

    Carnage04 Jedi Knight star 5

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    Uhhhh, the fact that a random person on Tatooine made the movie bearable scares me. It's like saying that the Ithorian in the Mos Eisley cantina made ANH bearable. ;)

    Carnage
     
  25. Dark_Disciple

    Dark_Disciple Jedi Master star 3

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    Well...I just wasn't a big fan of TPM that's all. :eek: For me it was, and still remains a let down. [face_peace]
     
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