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Why wasn't Jar Jar on the balcony at the end watching the clones go to war??

Discussion in 'Archive: Attack of the Clones' started by Rebel Scumb, Sep 29, 2003.

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  1. Rebel Scumb

    Rebel Scumb Jedi Knight star 6

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    It seems like he should of been there. He was the one who called for Palpatine to have emergency powers.
     
  2. data68

    data68 Jedi Youngling star 1

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    I think it would have ruined the mood, seeing as how Jar-Jar is a pretty goofy character.
     
  3. Grilled-Sarlacc

    Grilled-Sarlacc Former Head Admin star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Perhaps Jar-Jar felt tricked and manipulated and was too ashamed.

    What I want to know is...what was Padme's reaction when she found out that Jar-Jar endorsed the very motion (clone army) she fight so hard to defeat?

    Tricky Palps. ;)
     
  4. Darth_Insidious

    Darth_Insidious Jedi Padawan star 4

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    Dont ask, just be thankful. ;)
     
  5. IKilledSifo-Dyas

    IKilledSifo-Dyas Jedi Master star 2

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    I think the obvious sexual tension between Palpatine and Jar Jar would have distracted from the intent of the scene.
     
  6. AdamBertocci

    AdamBertocci Manager Emeritus star 7 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    He probably wasn't invited. Palpatine used him... probably has no further use. Why bother keeping him around?

    And yes, from a filmmaking point of view, he wouldn't have fit in with the gloominess of it all... and he probably wouldn't understand the significance of his mistake enough to feel sad, the way Bail does...


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  7. Rebel Scumb

    Rebel Scumb Jedi Knight star 6

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    "Dont ask, just be thankful."

    Why? I like Jar jar, he's one of my favorite prequel characters. He's the only one who isn't stiff and boring.

    Jar jar wasn't goofy in AOTC, and what would be goofy about him standing there looking solemn? He didn't need to have any lines, but it made more sense for him to be there then Toonbuck Tora, who was hyped up as an awesome new badguy before the movie came out.
     
  8. AdamBertocci

    AdamBertocci Manager Emeritus star 7 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Heh, Toonbuck Toora.

    Yeah, StarWars.com (among other sources) have a way of making every character seem important.

    Of course the fans don't help, making a big freakin' deal over every single thing.

    I hear there are even SOME people who think Salacious Crumb is the most important character in the saga. :eek:


    / referring to self, duh



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  9. yes

    yes Jedi Youngling star 1

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    Oh my goodness.........Sexual tension between Palpatine and Jar Jar Binks....*Gasp!*
     
  10. Scott3eyez

    Scott3eyez Jedi Padawan star 4

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    ^^^
    That's what Mrs. Palpatine said...
     
  11. Lars_Muul

    Lars_Muul Jedi Grand Master star 6

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    Is there a Mrs Palpatine?

    *glances at Mas Amedda*


    As our good friend Bertocci pointed out, he was probably not invited. Jar Jar represented Amidala, who was against creating an army. Organa and the others on the balcony were supporting it.
    They just didn´t count on it getting this far, which is why Bail looks frustrated.
     
  12. IKilledSifo-Dyas

    IKilledSifo-Dyas Jedi Master star 2

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    Maybe Jar Jar went back to Naboo with Padme and Anakin.It's a little more reasonable to think that he wasn't invited to the wedding (I doubt Jar Jar is good at keeping secrets).
     
  13. vonwolf

    vonwolf Jedi Youngling star 1

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    Sorry off subject but someone just asked me where was the 1138 in ep2. Usually GL has this number somewhere in his films. Does anyone know?
     
  14. AdamBertocci

    AdamBertocci Manager Emeritus star 7 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    On the back of the clonetrooper helmets (it's reeeeeal small) and on the back of a battle droid that gets Force-pushed away.

    And now, BACK ON TOPIC, FOLKS :)



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  15. Mace Windy

    Mace Windy Manager Emeritus star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    I agree with you RS, Jar Jar should have been present at the balcony scene. I think that it is unfortunate and unfair that a character who was so predominately featured in Episode I, did not have the oppertunity to complete his role as a character in Episode II. The film seems content to drop his character from the story in the middle of what should have been his AOTC character arc. It is unfortunate that the film should show one of its characters such blatant disrespect.


    On a related note, this business of Jar Jar ruining the mood of the scene is pure bunk. Look at Jar Jar at Qui-Gon's funeral. Did he ruin that scene? Absolutely not. With a solemn, or even a blank look on his face, standing in the background, there is no possible way that the character could have detracted from the scene.




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  16. I-poodoo

    I-poodoo Jedi Padawan star 4

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    "The obvious sexual tension..." LMAO

    Anyway he probably got in trouble with Padme for pushing through the vote she was fighting to stop and thrown into her apartment's dog(sorry I mean Gungan)house. Poor Jar Jar he's been Grounded for a week and has to eat "Mooi Mooi, stinkowiff dogfoods".
     
  17. Darkwish

    Darkwish Jedi Padawan star 4

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    I feel sorry for the whole Jar Jar thing now.

    He gets so much crap from people. It's really overkill.



     
  18. Rebel Scumb

    Rebel Scumb Jedi Knight star 6

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    He's a way better character then Padme.

    "I agree with you RS, Jar Jar should have been present at the balcony scene. I think that it is unfortunate and unfair that a character who was so predominately featured in Episode I, did not have the oppertunity to complete his role as a character in Episode II. The film seems content to drop his character from the story in the middle of what should have been his AOTC character arc. It is unfortunate that the film should show one of its characters such blatant disrespect."

    It also sucks that they cut out his big speech in the senate. There was some great tongue and cheek humour where the other senators 'BOO!' him as he enters, but he gradually wins them over with his speech.

    Instead the scene is just stupid with the senate who supposedly can't agree on anything all cheering to give away all their power, which is the one thing politicians never do without a fight.
     
  19. GrandAdmiral_Frank

    GrandAdmiral_Frank Jedi Padawan star 4

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    Perhaps he went back to Naboo with Padme? Besides I don't think he is considered a serious enough character to be up with Palpy during the Imperial March.
     
  20. Rebel Scumb

    Rebel Scumb Jedi Knight star 6

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  21. R2-12point

    R2-12point Jedi Youngling star 3

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    >>>>I agree with you RS, Jar Jar should have been present at the balcony scene. I think that it is unfortunate and unfair that a character who was so predominately featured in Episode I, did not have the oppertunity to complete his role as a character in Episode II.

    On a related note, this business of Jar Jar ruining the mood of the scene is pure bunk. Look at Jar Jar at Qui-Gon's funeral. Did he ruin that scene? Absolutely not. With a solemn, or even a blank look on his face, standing in the background, there is no possible way that the character could have detracted from the scene. <<<<

    Absolutely, MW and RS. I wish George had had the gumption to stay with the homely gal that he brought to the dance in the first place. In Clones, Jar Jar should've:

    a) been presented as being much closer to the two Jedi and Padme. (I think it would've been neat if, over the years, he had served as Anakin's tenuous link with Padme, perhaps as messenger. Jar Jar Mercutio?)

    b) spoken up in the scene in Palpatine's office. At least one line, something in concern.

    c) got a little worked up when Obi-Wan was captured.

    d) definitely been on that balcony. It would've been neat is Palpatine had slipped an arm around him and said something like, "Now let us look at our army." JJ could've then been shown to realize what he'd done. And Mace Windy is right about the end of Meance: Jar Jar's face is capable of great expressions.

    I neither liked nor disliked Jar Jar when Menace came out. Most of his behavior in that film was just one more unfortunate decision on GL's part. But, come on, at least he was a flavor! It was too often a too-sweet bubble gum flavor, true, but it was a flavor nonetheless! I'd take him over any number of stale extra characters.

    I have no knowledge of Ep. III spoilers, so I say this purely out of hope: Please George, JJ must the twins with an act of perfect heroism! He should not be killed, but retired peacfully! Please?
     
  22. Rebel Scumb

    Rebel Scumb Jedi Knight star 6

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    Yeah it really feels like Gl caved to all the Jarjar bashing. I wish he had just stuck it to people and kept Jarjar important.

    If not, it would be better that he just wasn't in it at all. But its so sad when Padme basically tells Jarjar to stop talking and get out of the movie.

     
  23. youngskywalker48

    youngskywalker48 Jedi Youngling star 1

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    Well if you havent noticed Jar Jar has no clue whats goin on.
     
  24. Rebel Scumb

    Rebel Scumb Jedi Knight star 6

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  25. Ret

    Ret Jedi Grand Master star 6

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    "What I want to know is...what was Padme's reaction when she found out that Jar-Jar endorsed the very motion (clone army) she fight so hard to defeat? "

    Because Jar Jar did what he did Padme's live was saved so she'd at least be happy about that.
     
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