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Why won't they use the Aing-Tii Monks to destroy the Yuuhzan Vong?

Discussion in 'Literature' started by MasterDownUnder, Apr 24, 2002.

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  1. MasterDownUnder

    MasterDownUnder Jedi Youngling star 1

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    Hey, there all! I've just finihshed reading the Hand of Thrawn duology and it hits me pretty obviously that there is a force in the galaxy that could easily destroy the YV almost uneccessarily easily, so why don't they use them?

    Car'das celarly leave the invitation open to come back whenever they choose. Why not ask him to request their help in the defence of the galaxy they live in? If unstopped, they will eventually end up out in the Kathol Rift, right?

    What do you think? I reckon they should at least be asked to help. :)
     
  2. PrinceXizor

    PrinceXizor Former TF.N Foreign Book Cover Staff star 5 VIP

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    Because it'd be like...

    "Oh, the Aing-Tii monks came to our rescue !"

    [Yuuzhan Vong get wiped out in a few days]

    "Okay guys and gals, now that we have peace and love for ever in our galaxy, what are we gonna do in the next twenty books ?"

    [Follows the adventures of Luke Skywalker at Disneygalaxy Coruscant]

    Why do you think there's no army of Thrawn clones to handle the Vong threat ? :p
     
  3. UCLAJediMaster

    UCLAJediMaster Jedi Master star 4

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    well the monks keep to themselves... when you say why dont use the aing tii... who are you refering to as the "they"...

    i take you to mean the authors because any other interpretation would mean that the monks have some sort of rulers which they obviously dont.

    the answer to the question is stated in the post above... because it is just to easy and boring to have happen.
     
  4. Lord_Riven

    Lord_Riven Jedi Master star 4

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    I think "they" means Talon Karrde etc. going to Exocron and asking the Aing-Tii for help. But it would make it way too easy with the instant hyperdrive they could hit multiple Vong targets at once
     
  5. ReaperFett

    ReaperFett Jedi Knight star 6

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    Yeah. Stupid race :)
     
  6. ILLUMINATUS_JEDI

    ILLUMINATUS_JEDI Jedi Master star 4

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    Maybe not in a big way, but thay could halp them.

    Besides, they keep to themselves, although I do want them to have an apperrance. But if they do it should be near the end of the series or HC5.
     
  7. pkaw

    pkaw Jedi Youngling

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    From what I remember the monks of Ang Tii were also Force users, though in a different way. The Yuuzhan Vong are not affected by the force. So the monks won't be of any help!! Also the only one who had any major contact with the monks was Talon Karrde, as far as I remember. He never had anything to do with the New Rep. IMO of course!!!
     
  8. chissdude10

    chissdude10 Jedi Youngling star 5

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    Zahn's HoT duology was good for very little, since he has said the only reason he wrote it was to get a last say in sw.
     
  9. PrinceXizor

    PrinceXizor Former TF.N Foreign Book Cover Staff star 5 VIP

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    Oh oh... Have you lost faith in Zahn, 'dude ?
     
  10. chissdude10

    chissdude10 Jedi Youngling star 5

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    Zahn is a brillient author, and I look up to him and enjoy his work, in sw and abroad. I just think that the NJO has nothing to do with his stuff, like hes finished with sw, so I doubt that his work(Chiss, Aing-Tii, Car'das, Pellaeon), will save the day.
     
  11. PrinceXizor

    PrinceXizor Former TF.N Foreign Book Cover Staff star 5 VIP

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    Ahhh ! You had me worried ! ;) :)
     
  12. chissdude10

    chissdude10 Jedi Youngling star 5

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    Gosh, I had myself worried [face_smile]
     
  13. soontirfel181

    soontirfel181 Jedi Youngling star 1

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    OK, now I've got to put my $0.02 in.

    pkaw, have you been reading SW for very long? Talon Karrde has a lot to do with the NR. First, his Smugglers' Alliance was probably the deciding factor in Thrawn's defeat at Bilbringi - it was the one factor the vaunted Grand Admiral couldn't foresee. Second, he's a very good friend of the Solo-Skywalker clan, having performed favors for them on several occasions. Not the least of these was the rescue of the Jedi children in Conquest. Finally, his organization was the chief source of contact between the NR and Imperial gov'ts after the truce.

    As for you, chissdude, haven't you noticed that not only have Pellaeon and the Chiss already appeared and played a minor part in the NJO, but that they likely will play a bigger part in the future? The IR will not be ignored by the YV, and JediNet has dropped hints that (SPOILERS)














    "coughing hissy snakes" (i.e., Chiss) will play a big part in Destiny's Way.
     
  14. chissdude10

    chissdude10 Jedi Youngling star 5

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    Im whats called a realist, first of all the chiss wont be involved, House Mitth'raw'nuruodo might. The IR is not up to fight, they have their own political turmoil.
     
  15. pkaw

    pkaw Jedi Youngling

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    Soonti181: My point exactly, he helps his friends, not necc the New rep. and he has never been part of any official rep organization, and I agree he plays a part in info sharing between the NR and the IR.

    What I was getting at is to get to the monks the NR will once again have to use unofficial channels i.e. through Karrde!!
     
  16. MasterDownUnder

    MasterDownUnder Jedi Youngling star 1

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    Instant hyperdrive would be great! Just show up, blow up and disappear!

    As to their not being able to sense the Yuuhzan Vong in the Force? Well, neither can the Jedi, but they are royally kicking their scarred butts.

    So just because you can't sense them through the Force, doesn't mean they are blind and unable to destroy what they can SEE with their eyes! ;)

    Sometimes, I just can't understand Forum behaviour!

    And another thing: What if Vergere is also able to use the Aing Tii monks abilities through the Force? Than that would explain how she's gonna' train Jacen to to use newer, more destructive methods with the power? What do you think of that?

    Not such a bad suggestion, however, I can see you all saying, yeah good on yeah mate! But that's your opinion! ;)

    Maybe you agree with me! And if you don't, maybe you should! ;)

    Enough! Vader, release him. This bickering is pointless...
     
  17. TIEace

    TIEace Jedi Knight star 5

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    Didn't it also mention that the Aing-Tii Monks didn't bother with anything that didn't show up around their sector?
     
  18. Genghis12

    Genghis12 Manager Emeritus star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    'Dude...
    Since you nearly brought a tear to my eye with the statement saying HoT wasn't good for much, I'll go easy.

    "so I doubt that his work(Chiss, Aing-Tii, Car'das, Pellaeon), will save the day."

    [face_plain] The Aing-Ti are not "Zahn's work." They were created by Eric Trautmann, Paul Sudlow and the rest of the Darkstryder gang at West End Games! :)
     
  19. Ana Vitorrian

    Ana Vitorrian Jedi Youngling star 3

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    Don't get me wrong, I dig the Aing Tii, but it's always surprised me why there's so much clamor for their involvement in this new galactic war. I'd much rather see the the forces closer to the Yuuzhan Vong's "Vector Prime", i.e., forces like The Empire, The Chiss, The Corporate Sector . . . rather than a group on the opposite end of the Galaxy occupying a territory, Kathol Sector, not immediately as endangered from the Yuuzhan Vong as the other "forces" that I mentioned.

    However, if Gamer continues to kick out issues, I'm down with a feature covering the Aing Tii - they're a collectively interesting bunch!!!
     
  20. Kier_Nimmion

    Kier_Nimmion Jedi Knight star 5

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    The Aing-Ti are not "Zahn's work." They were created by Eric Trautmann, Paul Sudlow and the rest of the Darkstryder gang at West End Games!

    'Bout time some pointed that out.


     
  21. ILLUMINATUS_JEDI

    ILLUMINATUS_JEDI Jedi Master star 4

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    For who ever mentioned that the Aing Tii would be worthless because there Force Users, your about to get my theory! :D [face_mischief]

    Apart from instant HyperDrives, which would be of tremendous value, The Aing Tii see the Force "In the whole spectrum while the Jedi only see Black and White" (Jorj Car'Das' own words)
    This means that the Aing Tii see all "Wavelenghts" of the Force.
    It is therefore very possible that the Aing Tii are in touch with the Vong wavelenght of the Force.

    TA DAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA! 8-}
     
  22. Kier_Nimmion

    Kier_Nimmion Jedi Knight star 5

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    It would then make sense that they teach it to Luke or Jacen or one of our heroes so it can be taught to all of the Jedi. I see no reason to, like so many people want for the Chiss, to have Aing-Ti monks show up and save the day deus ex machina style.


     
  23. chissdude10

    chissdude10 Jedi Youngling star 5

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    Sorry Genghis, I should have relized that. Im just so sick of everyone thinking RPG and Zahns character will save the day.
     
  24. Kier_Nimmion

    Kier_Nimmion Jedi Knight star 5

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    Yeah, you've never put theories like that forward before, hmmm, Chissdude?


     
  25. Nom Anor

    Nom Anor TFN Books Staff star 4 VIP

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