Why would Han solo call Jabba the Hutt a wonderful Human being?

Look I know Jabba the hutt was a human at first, but why would lucas not fix the lines since he was a slug?

 

I think the official word is that they left the line as is so it would sound ironic, like Han was being sarcastic.

 

^^^

4LOM has it in one.

 

why would Leia call Han a scruffy looking nerf-herder? it's the same game, my friend...

 

The first time I saw it, I didn't know Jabba was played by a human originally, so I automatically assumed what 4LOM stated. I found it funny, and still like it.
Although nowadays I think "human being" is even an insult

 

Actually, wasn't he supposed to be some big furry creature originally, but it was decided that it would be too close to Chewbacca?

That's what I always thought anyway. If that's the case then Han was always being sarcastic.

EDIT:

From the Official Site:
Before he became the fat loathsome slug that we recognize Jabba as in Return of the Jedi, Jabba was referred to as a "Hut," and looked quite different. In the 1977 version of A New Hope, there was to be a confrontation between Han Solo and Jabba that was filmed, but it was never completed to make the final release.

The script establishes Jabba to be a large, repulsive creature, an effect that George Lucas could not realize at the time. He is described as a "fat, slug-like creature with eyes on extended feelers and a huge ugly mouth." The scene was filmed with a stand-in actor, Declan Mulholland. It would be over 20 years later that this scene was finally completed. The Special Edition of A New Hope featured a computer-generated Jabba replacement for Mulholland.

In the Marvel Comics adaptation of Star Wars, the confrontation remains intact, but Jabba is a tall humanoid with a walrus-like face, a scraggly topknot, and a bright uniform. The Marvel artists used a variation of Mosep, one of Jabba's underlings, glimpsed as an extra in the Mos Eisley scenes.

 

That's absolutely correct. Han was always supposed to be a smarta**.
Great line.

 

the line would have worked better and have been just as sarcastic if jabba was a human.

if han said "your a wonderful creature." or something like that, it still would have had the sarcasm, but it would'nt have been so obviously incorrect.

 

i thought han was saying that not just to be sarcastic in that he just calls him a human for no reason, but that there might be some sarcastic reasoning behind it.

like jabba was trying to be humane to han. from what i hear of the hutts, they consider themselves vastly superior to every single thing in the galaxy so the fact that jabba is actually letting han off, he isnt acting very hutt-like if you know what i mean. he is acting more like a human than a hutt in that he is giving han a second chance to repay him for the lost spice. its hard to explain but probably means just the same as the original sarcastic theory. ah well thats just my take on it!

 

Doesn't having Greedo shoot first kind of blow away the "official word" that it was left so Han would sound sarcastic?

I think Lucas was hitting the ol bottle the night before they put that scene into the SE, and he just ok'd and uh-huh'd everything while he endured his hangover.

 

I remember seeing an unmodified clip of that scene once. Basicly, Jabba was a human in big fur clothes (kinda like the ruler of Swamp Castle in Monthy Python and the Holy Grail).

And when Han stepped on Jabba's tail, they just spliced the segment and moved Han up into the air like they made him 'evade' Greedo's blaster shot.

 

"Actually, wasn't he supposed to be some big furry creature originally, but it was decided that it would be too close to Chewbacca?"

Despite what they say, when the scene was shot he was intended to be human. The actor who played Jabba was in costume, and the jabba scene in ANH would of been impossible to sub in a creature back then, and there would be no reason for the SFX team to think otherwise. Its a moving shot with no blue screen and Han walks infront of and behind Jabba.

It was hard for them to do in 1997, it would of been impossible in 1976.

 

Yes in the original footage "Jabba" is a short, fat guy wearing furs... they did intentend to change in something else later but didn't have the time or money. I just see the "wonderful human being" line as being funny, whether it is a "goof" or not. Or perhaps all intelligent lifeforms in Star Wars universe are considered "human"?

 

It's sarcasm, a common trait among those who post in these forums -or so I'm told.

See?

And the only thing Greedo shooting first changed character-wise was to make Greedo look like an even more incompetent putz of a bounty hunter.

 

You all think this line is funny, you just don't want to admit it, because you're part of the secret SE-haters club.

 

> like jabba was trying to be
> humane to han. from what i
> hear of the hutts, they consider
> themselves vastly superior to
> every single thing in the galaxy
> so the fact that jabba is actually
> letting han off, he isnt acting
> very hutt-like if you know what
> i mean. he is acting more like
> a human than a hutt in that he
> is giving han a second chance to
> repay him for the lost spice.

Sort of like how Captain Kirk
occasionally tells Spock how
he acts all emotional and "human"
and Spock gets all offended. If
the line is kept intact on the DVD
release, it would be great to see
a reaction from Jabba like he's
insulted.

 

Rebel Scumb is right, I think. They may have been intending to re-shoot the scene but there's no way they could have spliced in some creature in 1977. That's just GL rewriting history again.

 

hmmm how interesting. I always wondered that.

 

It is so obvious that Jabba was intended to be a human being, I can't believe one has to argue about it. However, since Jabba is a gigantic worm now, the best thing would be to replace the line about "wonderful human being" with something else for the dvd-version. It's not like they haven't changed a lot more before...

 

Sad_Devotion: Rewriting history? How? Did he ever say that they did put a creature effect into the movie? No, he said that that was the intention, but that it was impossible to do.
Another example of fans trying to rewrite Lucas....

 

I thought my meaning was perfectly clear. GL tries to rewrite history by creating this partially spurious narrative of the creation of these movies. In the official version quoted above, it is claimed that the human actor -- in costume, remember!-- portraying Jabba in the deleted scene from ANH was just "a stand-in," presumably until some creature could be spliced into the frame. I'm just agreeing with a number of other posters when I suggest that it is exceedingly improbable that GL would have costumed an actor he intended to erase from the screen anyway. In that case, GL is rewriting the history of his creative intentions.

 

I believe this was all disscussed in an interview with Lucas from "From Star Wars To Jedi: The Making of a Saga". This is where the original clip of the "human" actor comes from. However, I seem to remember them showing a overlayed pencil drawing of what the Jabba creature was supposed to look like.

To me, that shows that he wasn't originally supposed to be human. What they filmed was a stand in, kind of like what they did with Jar Jar to pre-visualize how he'd move, and where to look (although way less complicated in '76).

Again, that's just from memory, so I might be wrong. I'll have to dig out that tape.

 

I'm not saying Jabba wasn't originally conceived as a creature. But from every story I've read on this board it sounds to like the human actor was a reluctant substitution for a creature they couldn't make a reality -- not a stand-in to be replaced later. I believe that splicing in a CG Jabba was an afterthought.

 

Who says that guy was in costume? I think those were his regular clothes! The guy seemed like the kind of guy that would wear clothes like that.

I always had the impression that the scene was a walk through, and that the guy was going to wear a big furry costume for the real shoot. What probably happened was, they didn't get the costume, so Lucas had to concede and either go ahead with the scene with the human, or cut it completely. He cut it.

So both sides of the argument are correct, I believe. Lucas was never going to drop-in a creature, but still Jabba was designed as a monster - the novel, comic, sketches, and term "The Hutt" all back that up.

EDIT: Sad_Devotion wins by a nose

 

well,

read the original book of the film that came out in 1977 (the red one with the palpatine and leia intro). Jabba is a hairy fat man !! And thats that.