Will the upcoming TV Series be considered Canon?

Or like all the other TV stuff, will it be EU?

I think this one will be different and will be considered canon.

Any news?

 

Like all of the other TV series and all of the Expanded Universe, the upcoming TV series (if any) will be canon.

Unless it's not, of course.

 

Did you just contradict yourself?

 

Did you just contradict yourself?

Nope.

If they label it "Infinities" it won't be canon. But, I'm presuming they won't do that and it'll be canon just like the rest of the Ewok/Droids/Clone Wars/books/etc. pile...

 

Ummmmmm, doesnt canon mean its Star Wars law- as in, the films are canon?

 

Precisely. C-Canon I believe it's called. As opposed to G-Canon which is reserved for the films only

The only time it causes problems is when it conflicts with the movies. In which case the movies 'win'. If 'EU' conflicts with 'EU' then it's an issue for the continuity dept at LFL. Just believe whatever makes the story work... and remember it's a story

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EDIT: Oh, my post was directly answering DP4M's, not the one that Clone sneaked in

And the first person to innocently spell it "cannon" wins a sweet!

 

Right. Everything is canon, except things that aren't (e.g. "Infinities").

The movies are a "higher" form of canon, as is everything that comes out of Lucas' mouth. But the books, comics, TV shows, etc. are all canon as well.

 

see, i dont think most peopl think the EU is canon-

Its a simple question- ill put it in a simple way-

will the Upcoming TV Series be considered to be Star Wars fact on the same level as the Star Wars Movies?

 

Simple answer? No.

Not by the geeks anyway Most 'civilian' viewers don't know the difference anyway. Although I sometimes think that ignorance is bliss...

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see, i dont think most peopl think the EU is canon-

Doesn't matter overly much; the holders of the copyright (Lucasfilm, LTD) thinks it is. You, personally, may believe what you wish of course... doesn't really affect the truth of the matter any.

 

Thats cool, i guess whatever floats your boat...

I know i enjoy the comics and the clone war cartoons rocked.

I was just wondering if what Vader does during this so called TV show will be considered fact and added to his databank, in the non EU section....

Whichever....

 

I was just wondering if what Vader does during this so called TV show will be considered fact and added to his databank, in the non EU section....

Whichever....

That's actually a very good question.

It's kind of unknowable at this point,sa the Clone Wars cartoon was clearly in the "EU" section on the official site. But given that the TV series, if any, is likely to be the only media coming out of LFL other than computer games... who knows! It might go in EU, it might go in films, it might even get its own section...

 

Maybe i should of just asked that?

 

We'll have to wait and see what Lucas & Co. actually consider canon. For all we know, they may only view the 6 movies as canon and everything else as EU subject to being trumped in the future. Or they may deem a TV series to be on par with the movies. Or they may simply decide to pick and choose elements from the EU / TV series that will be considered canon and leave other portions strictly as EU.

Coruscant came from the EU (Zahn novels.) Boba Fett and Kashyyyk first appeared in the infamous Holiday Special (but somehow I don't think that Bea Arthur and Art Carney's characters from it are considered canon.) So if something appears in the EU, that is not to say that it can't become canon. I think they just wait and see if it is a good idea like the city planet concept of Coruscant or a bad idea like the Wookie holiday of Life Day.

 

We'll have to wait and see what Lucas & Co. actually consider canon. For all we know, they may only view the 6 movies as canon and everything else as EU subject to being trumped in the future. Or they may deem a TV series to be on par with the movies. Or they may simply decide to pick and choose elements from the EU / TV series that will be considered canon and leave other portions strictly as EU.

Coruscant came from the EU (Zahn novels.) Boba Fett and Kashyyyk first appeared in the infamous Holiday Special (but somehow I don't think that Bea Arthur and Art Carney's characters from it are considered canon.) So if something appears in the EU, that is not to say that it can't become canon. I think they just wait and see if it is a good idea like the city planet concept of Coruscant or a bad idea like the Wookie holiday of Life Day.

There's been several official statements for a while now that everything is canon, minus those things marked with an "Infinities" label. Straight from LFL, actually.

 

Not that I don't believe you Deepee, I strongly do in fact, but can we get a link to these statements from LFL? It would be very, very helpful to those naysayers in the 3SA where it seems "EU garbage" seems to crop up in every single thread.

 

Sure.

LFL's newest canon system;

Jan 21, 2004+

Are the entries in the Holocron sorted as cannonical & non-cannonical? Are there various degress of oficialness?

POST 1
The database does indeed have a canon field. Anything in the films and from George Lucas (including unpublished internal notes that we might receive from him or from the film production department) is considered "G" canon. Next we have what we call continuity "C" canon which is pretty much everything else. There is secondary "S" continuity canon which we use for some older published materials and things that may or may not fit just right. But, if it is referenced in something else it becomes "C". Similarly, any "C" canon item that makes it into the films can become "G" canon. Lastly there is non-continuity "N" which we rarely use except in the case of a blatant contradiction or for things that have been cut.

I will not go into specifics as to what is considered "S" canon or what items that are seemingly "C" canon are actually "G" canon.

POST 2
...continuity "C" canon which is pretty much everything else. " By everything else I mean EVERYthing else. Novels, comics, junior novels, videogames, trading card games, roleplaying games, toys, websites, television. As I've mentioned earlier, any contradictions that arise are dealt on a case-by-case.

This has been our general approach to continuity since we began using the Holocron database to track it.

POST 3
In a nutshell, anything created by the author would be C-level. Anything in the the novels created by George Lucas (whether it comes from unpublished early script versions, unpublished author interviews with George, or George's revisions to the novelization manuscript) would be G-level unless contradicted by the films.

It gets a little more complicated when something is seen on-screen but not named. So the "shuura fruit" mentioned in the AOTC novel would be G because you see it in the film, although the author came up with the name.

-Leland Chee, Keeper of the Holocron, Holocron Database

 

As noted by DP4M, there is G-canon(the movies) and C-canon(the EU).

Which one the tv series is depends on whether George Lucas personally writes the storyline himself or not...

 

its a matter of opinion

what one believes that one piece of fiction is "more real" than another piece of fiction

 

When you begin to have an "A" Canon and a "B" Canon the whole debate is getting pointless.

 

Well, we don't fortunately!

We've got "C" canon and "G" canon...