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CT Would Leia have turned to the dark side?

Discussion in 'Classic Trilogy' started by otherworlds, Feb 28, 2016.

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Would Leia have turned to the dark side

  1. yes

    4 vote(s)
    17.4%
  2. no

    19 vote(s)
    82.6%
  1. otherworlds

    otherworlds Jedi Youngling

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    Sorry if there was such a debate before but I didn't find it.

    We know Darth Vader was probably tormenting Luke, knowing how he would react to the suggestion, the very thought of his sister turning to the dark side instead, as he was refusing to, but do you think there was any truth in that. I thought Luke would have been smart enough to know otherwise.
     
  2. anakinfansince1983

    anakinfansince1983 Skywalker Saga/LFL/YJCC Manager star 10 Staff Member Manager

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    I'm going with no, but it depends on whether Palpatine or Vader could have preyed on her emotional vulnerabilities.

    The threat from Vader was used as just that with Luke--preying on his emotions, which is why he reacted the way he did. It's not that he wasn't smart enough, he just wasn't thinking about it at all.
     
  3. Sarge

    Sarge 5x Wacky Wednesday winner star 10 VIP - Game Winner

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    I voted no. She has a short fuse, sure, but she doesn't strike me as the type to hold a grudge. She'll get mad and call you names, maybe even throw stuff at you, but then she'll calm herself down and be reasonable again. She's wise enough to have learned that hatred is more harmful to yourself than it is to the one you hate, and she won't go that way.
     
  4. themoth

    themoth Force Ghost star 5

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    A big no. I think her grounding in law and order from a young age, and into adulthood, makes her a good person for life.
     
  5. J_Girl

    J_Girl Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    I vote: No. While I think it's easier to think she has the ability to rage [at incorrigible scoundrels named Han Solo, for instance, ;) ] it's just as easy to see her ability to control herself and her emotions. Tortured by Vader? She gave them nothing! She lands on Yavin IV with a sweeping away of mourning "We have no time for our sorrows, Commander." She hears Luke is her brother and Vader her father and she starts analyzing how she knew and what she thinks Luke should do, not instantly freaking out, just some understandable controlled crying afterwards. Han frozen in carbonite? Horrification on her face, but she holds herself together. The one thing she has control of is her fear and other vulnerable emotions.

    Added to that, Leia has an obvious deep respect for people and for life especially after watching her homeworld blown to bits. That keeps her firmly planted in the Light Side.

    Luke was willing to sacrifice anything for his friends throughout the OT, this gave him a vulnerability. When Vader threatened Leia, it hit a special nerve because it was the woman that was his first impetus to follow Kenobi on some new damn fool idealistic crusade and also happened to be his sister. On top of that, Luke wasn't as mature or galaxy-wise as Leia. Yes, a bit older and wiser than the farm boy he was in ANH, but still had not been in a plethora of situations where he had to control his emotions after they had been taunted and piqued. It made him vulnerable. That was why it was such a important fight in the OT. Luke was probably as tempted as he was ever going to be and how he handled himself in that moment is where we watch him turn into a full Jedi or fall to the Darkside.
     
  6. Bob the X-Winger

    Bob the X-Winger Jedi Knight star 3

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    Luke was tempted to the Dark Side more than any of the others. I don't even believe Han would have been seduced. He too had a thorough distaste for the Empire although he was aggressive.
     
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  7. SateleNovelist11

    SateleNovelist11 Force Ghost star 6

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    I voted no. Leia learned to control her emotions before she studied the Force. Leia learned emotional regulation before Luke did.
     
  8. Snokers

    Snokers Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Nah.

    For some reason Leia has always struck me as the one out of the three main protagonists that is purely incorruptible. Her dedication to her cause is - dare I say it - no match for the Dark Side.
     
  9. cubman987

    cubman987 Friendly Neighborhood Saga/Music/Fun & Games Mod star 7 Staff Member Manager

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    I think she is too strong willed, she was able to be tortured and not betray the Rebellion and even when she thought her entire planet would be destroyed she lied, so I think she would have died before turning to the Dark Side.
     
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  10. Darth DoJ

    Darth DoJ Jedi Padawan star 1

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    Perhaps if she wasn't brought with the bait if being a dark Jedi with powers, but brought in through political persuasion. She had a strong will AND a strong desire to bring peace and justice to the galaxy - like her father had. There are enough points of weakness (or exploitable strengths) in her that Vader could draw upon, it wouldn't have to be "I can train you into a powerful Jedi/Sith" but more "I can give you influence over the whole galaxy to shape it as you want, even to restore the Old Republic senate, to restore democracy, just join me and together we will overthrow the emperor and we will have all the influence and power we need".
     
  11. MattOrgana

    MattOrgana Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Certainly not. Leia is what her father would be, had he never turned (minus the Jedi part, because she’s a politician and a leader like her mother): bad-tempered and with a sharp tongue, but ultimately good and incorruptible, always fighting for the greater good of the galaxy.
     
  12. Darth Downunder

    Darth Downunder Chosen One star 6

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    I'd say if Han tried to bring Chewie into their bed. That might turn her towards the darkness.
     
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  13. mute90

    mute90 Jedi Knight star 1

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    Yes, or rather, I think there's a chance. If she was tempted with something that really mattered to her, I think she'd turn. I just don't believe anyone is incorruptible. For Luke, what did Palpatine have to offer him? Nothing Luke really desired. Even Anakin, who desired power, didn't turn until Padme's life was dangled in front of him. Palpatine played it smart with him. He was overconfident and foolish with Luke. I'd like to think his failure with Luke would remind him to be more clever when he moved onto Leia.
     
  14. Allana_Rey

    Allana_Rey Jedi Master star 4

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    Definitely not. Her brother was far more likely to fall. A dark side Leia would be interesting though.
     
  15. StarWarsFTW

    StarWarsFTW Jedi Youngling star 1

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    I voted no she is to committed to the rebellion she hated the empire
     
  16. IamZam

    IamZam Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    She's way too strong willed. Look at all she's survived and she still keeps on going. Every movie she's in, something crappy happens to her and that doesn't include the new EU or the old EU. She's survived, torture, the loss of her family and planet, finding out the biggest bad in the galaxy is her father, having her boyfriend tortured and frozen, and now a dark side son who committed patricide. Anyone else would be sobbing in the corner and mumbling incoherently.

    If that doesn't break her, she's unbreakable to an almost super human status, mentally anyway.
     
  17. MattOrgana

    MattOrgana Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Not to mention the old EU, where she lost to sons, one of them killed by his own twin sister. But she kept fighting until well into her 60's, and even found time to become a Jedi.

    And people still say Leia is not as strong in the Force as Anakin and Luke. I say she's stronger than both of them.
     
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  18. Darth Formidious

    Darth Formidious Jedi Master star 4

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    Leia is 100x tougher than either Luke or Han... So it's a big, fat NO! :D
     
  19. IamZam

    IamZam Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    When it comes to intestinal fortitude, she is stronger than anyone in the galaxy alive or dead. No other human could survive what she's been through.
     
  20. Darth Formidious

    Darth Formidious Jedi Master star 4

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    Exactly, her son turned to the dark side and became a twisted murderer of children. So she decided to fight and destroy The First Order... whilst Han reverted back to a smuggler and Luke hid on a far off planet. She is as tough as they come! ;)
     
  21. panta1978

    panta1978 Jedi Knight star 3

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    Don't judge New Trilogy's Luke by his cover... I'm sure we'll know more about his choice and will realise it was for the better.

    However I agree. Leia seems to be the strongest character in CT.

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  22. Darth Formidious

    Darth Formidious Jedi Master star 4

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    I merely stated an observation, I didn't judge.
     
  23. ObiWanKnowsMe

    ObiWanKnowsMe Jedi Master star 4

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    I think Leia was more vulnerable to turning to the dark side than Luke was. Luke was just a good guy from the start. Leia, on the other hand, while not a terrible person- she was prissy and had a temper.
     
  24. jakobitis89

    jakobitis89 Jedi Master star 4

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    Never join Vader/Palpatine but I could definitely see her gradually slipping over time, similar to her dear old dad, if she never had tutelage in the ways of the Force. Someone like (just for instance) C'baoth could presumably claim to be teaching her the ways of the Jedi but be focussing more on sheer power/emotional impetus (the ways of the Sith) and she wouldn't realise she was anything other than a 'true' Jedi. All hypothetically of course.
     
  25. SateleNovelist11

    SateleNovelist11 Force Ghost star 6

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    I imagine that Leia would prefer death to the dark side. She would probably take aim at Vader and/or Sidious before going down.
     
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