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Would things be the same if Anakin went with Obi-Wan?

Discussion in 'Archive: Revenge of the Sith' started by lord_dalton, Sep 18, 2005.

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  1. lord_dalton

    lord_dalton Jedi Youngling star 1

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    if anakin went with obi wan to utapau, do you think anakin would still have fallen to the darkside???
     
  2. thechozn1

    thechozn1 Jedi Master star 4

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    That was never really an option. Not enough jedi to go around and they wanted Anakin to keep an eye on the Chancellor. Might wanna try the "what if" thread though, or even the "quick, random ROTS questions" thread
     
  3. rumsmuggler

    rumsmuggler Chosen One star 7

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    If Anakin disobeyed the council's order to watch Palps and went with Obi Wan, I think it would have been highly unlikely that he would have turned. Mace and his posse would have still tried to arrest Palps, but they wouldn't have had Anakin's confession that Palps was a Sith Lord.
     
  4. LordRevan19

    LordRevan19 Jedi Master star 4

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    "That was never really an option. Not enough jedi to go around and they wanted Anakin to keep an eye on the Chancellor."

    Exactly
     
  5. mjerome3

    mjerome3 Jedi Knight star 6

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    Very good question. But I think it all has to do with timing. Had Skywalker accompanied Obi-Wan to Utapau, Palpatine would not have revealed himself as Sidious to Anakin nor would Palpatine been able to keep his emergency powers since Anakin and Obi-Wan would have destroyed Grevious.

    But there's always the possibility in Anakin still turning once they got back.
     
  6. IBO-NAW-NAYAS

    IBO-NAW-NAYAS Jedi Youngling star 2

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    Yes Palpatine was smart and even if Anakin went with Obi he would still have to spend lots of time with palps and sooner or later palps would have revealed himself and Anakin would have turned to the darkside. However if the council never told Anakin to spy on Palpatine i beleive that there would be a slim chance of Anakin swiching over. It'because they sent him to spy that he mostly turned over, he started thinking of the Jedy as liers and traitors and that they were evil.
     
  7. Alpha-Red

    Alpha-Red 18X Hangman Winner star 7 VIP - Game Winner

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    The book mentioned how Palps had to specifically get Obi-Wan away from Anakin so he could turn him to the dark side. Palps probably saw how rescuing Obi-Wan made Anakin recede from the dark side after he killed Dooku, so he knew he had to get Obi-Wan out of the way.

    I think if Anakin had went with Obi-Wan, he would've been able to hold himself back, and have a very good chance of staying with the light side. Then Palps would probably just sit there and be arrested, or get himself off Coruscant.
     
  8. SmASh0r09

    SmASh0r09 Jedi Youngling

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    What if Obi-Wan has been the 1 with his saber at Sidious' neck, would he have cut off Obi-Wan's hand/arm?
     
  9. Darth_SomethingWitty

    Darth_SomethingWitty Jedi Youngling star 1

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    I think Annakin would have still turned eventually, just not so soon. Obi-Wan was the only Jedi that Annakin could confide in at all and he still had to hold a lot back. Sideous however did need to have Obi-Wan gone to sever the tie and leave him with no one to turn to in his hour of need. At the point where Annakin is sitting deciding what to do, he is completely alone and has no one to remind him that if Palp is the Sith Master, so he's either lying or twisting the truth.

    Either way, the closest thing to a moral center that Annakin has is Obi-Wan who he can't tell the truth to, so can't really help him. There is a Catch-22 that the Jedi have put Annakin in - he's damned if he tells them, damned if he doesn't. Obi-wan means well and certainly wants the best for Annakin, but without the truth his capacity is simply limited and he can only slow the eventual collapse.
     
  10. lord_dalton

    lord_dalton Jedi Youngling star 1

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    with Palp arrested and i don't think he would have fought the jedi when they did try and arrest him. Anakin would have gotten mad but not turned to the darkside. so i agree with you!
     
  11. twilightjedi0622

    twilightjedi0622 Jedi Master star 3

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    Sids revealed himself to the Jedi through Anakin at a time of his choosing. He simply would have done the same when Anakin returned to Couroscant after defeating Grevious. He would have simply stalled on stepping down as chancellor until the Sith Lord was found, or for some other reason. He was tricky like that.
     
  12. lord_dalton

    lord_dalton Jedi Youngling star 1

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    he would have no choice but to step down, Mace and the other masters were going to arrest him if he didn't step down befroe Anakin told Mace that palp was sidious.
     
  13. twilightjedi0622

    twilightjedi0622 Jedi Master star 3

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    He had been asked to step down before and found reasons not to. He would have found a reason to stay in power again.
     
  14. All_Powerful_Jedi

    All_Powerful_Jedi Force Ghost star 4

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    Anakin probably went with Obi-Wan on numerous missions before that. This just happened to be the one where Anakin got left behind. Imagine if Anakin stayed behind while Obi-Wan went after Dooku. Palpatine may have revealed himself before Grievous was destroyed, even.
     
  15. Tiershon_Fett

    Tiershon_Fett Jedi Knight star 5

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    No, which is exactly why Palps wanted Obi-wan out of the way. Obi-wan is Anakin's goto guy when he's having a hard time. Palps is the default.
     
  16. arbed

    arbed Jedi Knight star 5

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    I always felt that Obi was Anakin's anchor and whenever Obi was separated from Ani, trouble was a brewin' fer sure. However, eventually Anakin had to "grow up" and sink or swim on his own.
     
  17. darth-sinister

    darth-sinister Manager Emeritus star 10 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    It was only a matter time, regardless of going to Utapau or not. He would have to come back to Courscant and to his troubles, sooner or later.
     
  18. lord_dalton

    lord_dalton Jedi Youngling star 1

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    but Mace and Yoda with the rest of the Jedi council agreed that if he didn't step down then they would make him.
     
  19. voodoopuuduu

    voodoopuuduu Jedi Knight star 5

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    It was only a matter time, regardless of going to Utapau or not. He would have to come back to Courscant and to his troubles, sooner or later.

    Yep. Saving Padme was a key issue for Anakins turn. Utapau did nothing for or against that.
     
  20. almighty_smiley

    almighty_smiley Jedi Youngling star 1

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    if anakin went to utapau, then the jedi would have gone to palpatine anyway, and there's a good chance that he would duel them then. mace would kill him, as anakin wasn't there, and POOF! the rest of the star wars continuity line is history.
     
  21. Jedi General Gelderd

    Jedi General Gelderd Jedi Master star 5

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    If Anakin was with Obi-Wan I don't think he would have turned, it seems it's all Palpatine's doing to get Anakin away from the one person Anakin trusts and respects the same, if not more, than Palpatine and that's his best friend and mentor Obi-Wan.

    If Obi-Wan had been with him to guide Anakin along, he would havent gone to the Dark Side.

    In the scene where Obi-Wan is leaving for Utapau and is telling Anakin to be patient, it looks such a tender moment as Anakin seems to listen and understand what he is doing and takes all Obi-Wan's words in, and still both talk and part as friends which should have continued.
     
  22. almighty_smiley

    almighty_smiley Jedi Youngling star 1

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    order 66 would have still been carried out, and anakin and obi-wan would have survived. but knowing anakin, he would find the perp, and kill him. you saw what he did to a building at the end of one of the comic books...he got pissed, and tore the mutha fugga down!
     
  23. Jedi-Queen

    Jedi-Queen Jedi Padawan star 4

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    Ani was a runaway train on one track.
    Nothing would have de-railed him IMO.
    He wanted to save Padme [originally] plus the power
    was all too attractive to him.
     
  24. lord_dalton

    lord_dalton Jedi Youngling star 1

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    i also have a side question: If Anakin when with Obi Wan, do you think that Palp would have given the order to carry out order66 ??? and if he did would Anakin try to kill Palp for giving the oder???
     
  25. _Sublime_Skywalker_

    _Sublime_Skywalker_ Jedi Master star 4

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    No man, Sidious was going to wait to strike while Anakin was around. He would've just waited till Anakin got back even if it meant Obi would be on Coruscant too.

    Also,it was never really an option,Anakin's current assignment was to keep an eye on the chancellor and he couldnt really do that if he was with Obi.
     
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