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xXx: State of the Union

Discussion in 'Archive: The Amphitheatre' started by Chancellor_Ewok, Mar 22, 2005.

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Chancellor_Ewok Chosen One

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http://sonypictures.com/movies/triplex2/index.html

I just came across the trailer for this movie. I'm sure most of you remember the joke that was XXX, but I just watched the trailer and checked out the website and I have to admit that this has potential. I think with this movie they will get the feel that they missed with XXX, which is basically an American Bond film. Although I'm not surprised, considering that this movie is being made by the director of Die Another Day. In any case, I'm cautiously optimistic.

Chancellor_Ewok, Mar 22, 2005

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Drew_Atreides Jedi Grand Master

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Apr 30, 2002

...meh, i'll go see it...

I mean, it's got ICE CUBE in it...

Drew_Atreides, Mar 22, 2005

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Armenian_Jedi Force Ghost

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Mar 14, 2003

Ice Cube's in it!!!

w00t!!!

He's such a great actor.

I'll definitely check this one out.

Armenian_Jedi, Mar 22, 2005

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The2ndQuest Tri-Mod With a Mouth Staff Member Manager

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Well, the first xXx was a pretty solid and fun action flick- it set the grounds for what could have been a worthy Bond-esque franchise.

Then they shot themselves in the foot by changing lead stars to Ice Cube. Sure the "different xXx every movie" approach could work out in the end, but it basicly kills any chance of the franchise lasting long. This isn't like Fast and the Furious where the cars are the star, afterall.

Then they did an even dumber move by apparently filming a new ending to xXx for the "director's cut" DVD coming out where, not only did they use a different actor to play Vin's character- they killed Vin's character off!

I can't believe they'd do something as mindblowingly stupid as (literally) killing off any chance of Vin's character returning should there be further sequels.

Still, this one could still turn out decent- Ice Cube may not have the acting skill or charisma that Vin Diesel has, but he's still a decent actor and, above all else, Sam THE MAN Jackson is still in it, so I'll probably still check it out, in the hopes it's decent and that perhaps, if this one is not a failure, the franchise might continue and they can ignore that stupid DVD ending and bring Vin back.

The2ndQuest , Mar 22, 2005

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Mastadge Manager Emeritus VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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And to think, I once thought Lee Tamahori a promising director. . .

Mastadge, Mar 22, 2005

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JediTrilobite Jedi Grand Master

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Sigh... yet another movie with more explosions than brains...

JediTrilobite, Mar 22, 2005

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Drac39 Chosen One

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I don`t know I`ll rent it cause Willem Dafoe's in it,and he`s one of my/if not favorite actor

Drac39, Mar 22, 2005

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Drew_Atreides Jedi Grand Master

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Huh..Willem's in this, too?

That's actually a decent set of actors they have going...

I'm with 2ndQuest in having enjoyed the first XXX on a mindless-popcorn level..

This one could actually prove to be superior..

Drew_Atreides, Mar 22, 2005

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Chancellor_Ewok Chosen One

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Well as I said this one being made by a Bond vet, so I'm kind of optimistic about this movie, and yeah I think it could be alot better than the first one, which I found so rediculous as to be actually funny.

Chancellor_Ewok, Mar 22, 2005

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Drac39 Chosen One

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Huh..Willem's in this, too?

Yup

Drac39, Mar 22, 2005

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black_saber Force Ghost

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Apr 4, 2002

This movie will not be the same without Van Diessal.

black_saber, Mar 22, 2005

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Drac39 Chosen One

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This movie will not be the same without Van Diessal.

Hey he chose to change diapers in The Pacifer rather than kick ass in XXX,let him suffer his consequences

Drac39, Mar 22, 2005

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Armenian_Jedi Force Ghost

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Ice Cube may not have the acting skill or charisma that Vin Diesel has,

Sorry but I have never heard Vin Diesel described as a good actor or someone with charisma.

And Ice Cube is a far superior actor then Vin Diesel.

Armenian_Jedi, Mar 22, 2005

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The2ndQuest Tri-Mod With a Mouth Staff Member Manager

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I disagree- I think Vin has tremendous screen precense (hell, thats the reason why the Riddick character became so popular so as to spin off an eventual trilogy of films) and is actually a pretty decent actor (though a small role, he was pretty good in Boiler Room). I'll always be baffled by the anti-Vin comments you find on some movie boards.

I'm not knocking Ice Cube- as I said, he's also a decent actor, but I don't think he has much star presence like the XXX character needs, and I don't think he has that big of a range. (I'm not saying Vin has the biggest range either, but i think he does have a larger range than Cube- Cube just always looks like he's angry/scowling).

The2ndQuest , Mar 22, 2005

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plo_koom Jedi Knight

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Sigh... yet another movie with more explosions than brains...

Those movies still have a place in Hollywood, and all of the good ones are fast disapearing. All movies shouldn't be judged on the same standard. The standard is not that an action should have more "brains" as you put it, but if it can preform adequately in it's own field with "explosions". It's like judging a turtle on how fast it can fly, when it should be judged on a realistic standard. Si?

plo_koom, Mar 22, 2005

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TK-242 Jedi Youngling

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Jun 24, 2004

Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy comes out the same day. I would rather see Hitchhiker, but I might see this if I have extra time.

TK-242, Mar 22, 2005

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stinrab Manager Emeritus VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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hell, thats the reason why the Riddick character became so popular so as to spin off an eventual trilogy of films

Trilogy? Isn't there only two? And wasn't the second one a complete flop?

stinrab, Mar 23, 2005

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Armenian_Jedi Force Ghost

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2nd Quest, I agree on Boiler Room, he was great in that. But other then that one performance, he hasn't really impressed me much.

Ice Cube on the other hand, has been impressive in the Friday Trilogy, Three Kings, Boyz N The Hood, and the Barbershop films. Although he was pretty bad in Anaconda, Ghosts of Mars and Are We There Yet.

Armenian_Jedi, Mar 23, 2005

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Zaphod_BB Jedi Youngling

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I probably won't go and see it, two reasons:
1. It's coming out the same day as Hitchhiker's, wouldn't miss that for anything
2. I never really liked the original...granted it was a decent action flick...but that's it

Zaphod_BB, Mar 23, 2005

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JediTrilobite Jedi Grand Master

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The Chronicles of Riddick is the first of a trilogy, and they've said that they want to make the rest of them. I really hope that they do.

JediTrilobite, Mar 23, 2005

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The2ndQuest Tri-Mod With a Mouth Staff Member Manager

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>>Trilogy? Isn't there only two? And wasn't the second one a complete flop?<<

Well, that's why I said "eventual trilogy". And they're not counting Pitch Black in that, so right now there's technically just the one.

Though it didn't do great at the boxoffice, it apparently did very well on DVD (where the much, much better unrated director's cut was able to be released) and Vin says Riddick 2 will be his next project after he completes his Hannibal movie.

The2ndQuest , Mar 23, 2005

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JediTrilobite Jedi Grand Master

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How did the DVD fare?

JediTrilobite, Mar 23, 2005

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Drew_Atreides Jedi Grand Master

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I'll always be baffled by the anti-Vin comments you find on some movie boards.

Boy do i ever agree. I just don't understand why so many people hate the guy..

Cause there are some HARDCORE Vin-haters..

Drew_Atreides, Mar 23, 2005

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The2ndQuest Tri-Mod With a Mouth Staff Member Manager

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>>How did the DVD fare?<<

Apparently good enough to make pursuing Riddick 2 viable

The2ndQuest , Mar 23, 2005

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Le_Sammler Jedi Youngling

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Mar 21, 2005

I wonder why internationally this film has the subtitle The Next Level??? Do the producers / film studio think that world audiences are uneducated hicks who have know idea what the State of the Union is???

I read on a movie news site (forget which one) that discussed the third xXx potentially having a female lead star as xXx... what do you think of that? If it is someone like Michelle Rodrigez, that would be awesome in my opinon!

Le_Sammler, Apr 22, 2005

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