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Discussion in 'Fan Films & Fan Audio' started by DARTHCHEWIEX9, Aug 16, 2003.

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  1. DARTHCHEWIEX9

    DARTHCHEWIEX9 Jedi Youngling

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    Okay im doing these instructions on this page... http://www.hiddenphantom.com/Tutorials/MSPGlow/MSPGlow.htm
    now i do everything good up till the adding the color clip...i put the original clip in track Vb like it says..then i insert the color clip in the other track...wen i render it to source.avi it works cause its all black...but then wen i add the VP file in there, the whole clip is showing wen just the white core on the black background is supposed to show...i dont understand wat im doing wrong...can someone please help
     
  2. tekmaster

    tekmaster Jedi Youngling star 3

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    Time now for my time saving 2 cents. I find that Adobe After Effects makes rotoscoping a lot easier and faster than Ulead (I also think the lightsaber in AE look better too).

    Just my off the bone advice.
     
  3. DARTHCHEWIEX9

    DARTHCHEWIEX9 Jedi Youngling

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    yea but this is makin me so mad that i wanna know wat im doing wrong here.
     
  4. tekmaster

    tekmaster Jedi Youngling star 3

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    no doubt. Onward with your neverending quest for knowledge oh DarthChewie one.
     
  5. ScaPaCamem

    ScaPaCamem Jedi Padawan star 4

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    did you copy your original clip and rename source.avi and then open source.avi in vp and then do the painting
     
  6. DARTHCHEWIEX9

    DARTHCHEWIEX9 Jedi Youngling

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    no wat ur supposed to do is copy original..i did that...then open original in VP and paint it..i did that...then save it as .uvp file..did that...then open VE and put the original in there and then add a color clip and render it to source.avi..did that...i did everything right i just dont know wats goin on
     
  7. ScaPaCamem

    ScaPaCamem Jedi Padawan star 4

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    no your not your supposed to copy it source.avi

    thats the whole point read it this is because when you render it black (source.avi) then when you try to open the vp source it goes looking for that source clip so it finds it and its black. so all that shows up is the saber

    mysuggestion is to make another copy and put it in the vb section then render the black orgginal,avi or whatever
     
  8. DARTHCHEWIEX9

    DARTHCHEWIEX9 Jedi Youngling

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    wait a second..u lost me
     
  9. ScaPaCamem

    ScaPaCamem Jedi Padawan star 4

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    here it is in nick's words
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    Ahhh. No biggie. Step five is all about tricking MSP to do something that's not supposed to happen, so it can be difficult to understand.

    First:
    When you save your VP project in step 3. It doesn't actually save a new video that looks like your original with some white lines drawn on. Instead, the file contains information that basically says "Open this AVI file over here, and then add these extra (in this case white line) images on top"

    Step 5 starts with the VP project closed.
    At that point the original file name is changed. Since nothing is using that file at that moment, non of the programs notice.

    Then MSP Editor is used to create a replacement video that is just black, and the new video is saved under the old name of your original. Again, since nothing has the VP project open, non of the programs notice anything has happened.

    From that point forward, though, when you use the VP project, and it tells the computer "Open this AVI file over here..." it opens the new, all black video, then adds the white lines!

    The cool thing is that MSP's overlay functions, used in later steps, can change the white to any color you want, and with blurring, make it look like it's a glowing lightsaber, all with a few clicks, instead of re-drawing the lines over and over.

    Does that help?



    what he is saying is when ou open your vp file it looks for the orginal because that is what your project was based on. and when it sees the black clip all that will come up is the white lines but dont worry about that just do what i told you before
    mysuggestion is to make another copy and put it in the vb section then render the black orgginal,avi or whatever make



    ok well here it goes.

    copy the orginal name it new.avi then put that in vb then put a black color clip there
    then render it orginal.avi or whatever the file was called when you opened it in vp then op the vp file and put it were it is supposed to be and o try and deactivate the color clip
     
  10. DARTHCHEWIEX9

    DARTHCHEWIEX9 Jedi Youngling

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    yea so what exactly do i have to do though
     
  11. ScaPaCamem

    ScaPaCamem Jedi Padawan star 4

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    read what i just put on my last post t the very last thing


    here is what nick said another time-Just overwrite the existing source.jpg and leave it there.
    This way, when you put the UVP file into your Editor project, MSP will go looking for source.jpg, it will find it, and draw you're white saber with only a black background (this is for pics not video it just is supposed to be .avi not .jpg but dont worry about this when you are working on it)



    and if your having problems than email nick he is a real nice guy that can help you out alot but try what i put first
     
  12. DARTHCHEWIEX9

    DARTHCHEWIEX9 Jedi Youngling

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    i am not getting what ur saying at all man...ur confusing me..lol...u didnt really explain what i have to do
     
  13. ScaPaCamem

    ScaPaCamem Jedi Padawan star 4

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    yea i did what did you open the file
    as in vp
     
  14. DARTHCHEWIEX9

    DARTHCHEWIEX9 Jedi Youngling

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    the file i edited in VP is an MPG
     
  15. DARTHCHEWIEX9

    DARTHCHEWIEX9 Jedi Youngling

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    am i rendering it wrong or something?
     
  16. ScaPaCamem

    ScaPaCamem Jedi Padawan star 4

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    well thats your problem well what is it called ?.mpg i dont think ulead can render mpg and if it cant than you out of luck but it may i am to lazy to look
     
  17. DARTHCHEWIEX9

    DARTHCHEWIEX9 Jedi Youngling

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    no i know it does mpgs cause this worked on the other computer...but my computer is too slow so im doin it on my brothers now...it worked fine on mine
     
  18. ScaPaCamem

    ScaPaCamem Jedi Padawan star 4

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    but you are not anwesering my question so i cant help what was the file called when you origanlly opened it in vp ?.mpg
     
  19. DARTHCHEWIEX9

    DARTHCHEWIEX9 Jedi Youngling

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    Original.mpg
     
  20. ScaPaCamem

    ScaPaCamem Jedi Padawan star 4

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    ok that helps

    well make a copy of original.mpg and name it new.jpg place that in vb then do the color clip then render that as orginal.mpg then try opening your vp project and see if it is all black
     
  21. DARTHCHEWIEX9

    DARTHCHEWIEX9 Jedi Youngling

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    new.jpg???? why jpg..thats a picture file..i am doin mpg files..and why would i overwrite my original file?
     
  22. ScaPaCamem

    ScaPaCamem Jedi Padawan star 4

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    aww stupid me new.mpg
     
  23. DARTHCHEWIEX9

    DARTHCHEWIEX9 Jedi Youngling

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    jesus...now it wont even open the VP file!!! its saying the source video file is not correct: frame size must be 720 X 480: number of frames must be greater than 291....what is goin on!!!!!
     
  24. ScaPaCamem

    ScaPaCamem Jedi Padawan star 4

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    it did that to me to i would suggest completely starting over if you have under 291 frames than it shouldnt take long
     
  25. DARTHCHEWIEX9

    DARTHCHEWIEX9 Jedi Youngling

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    so i have to paint that stuff alllll over again?!?! dang...what does that thing mean with the frame size and frame numbers
     
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