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Yoda lifting the X-Wing is ESB: Most inspiring scene ever?

Discussion in 'Classic Trilogy' started by StarWarsIsMyLife, Jul 13, 2005.

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  1. StarWarsIsMyLife

    StarWarsIsMyLife Jedi Master star 2

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    Everything about Star Wars drives me wild, but the one thing I can never get enough of is the scene where Yoda uses the Force to bring the X-Wing out of the swamp after Luke gives up very easily. Personally, I consider that scene the most inspiring scene in entertainment media ever, and it has an awesome end quote by Luke and Yoda.

    This kind of adds onto the "life lessons" thread, but Yoda lifting that X-Wing is absolutely inspiring. It really changed my perspective on life and I realize just how important it is to be positive, have hope, and to always believe or know that you can do something. I'm not there yet, but this scene always leads me to think that way.

    Excellent cinematography, combined with an incredible musical score, that scene is absolute genius. I will never forget it for as long as I live.
     
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  2. Tokio_Drifter

    Tokio_Drifter Jedi Youngling star 2

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    Powerfull stuff, indeed. He crashed into that mudpool, how's he ever gonna get out?
    I mean the symbolism is so strong, yes the fact they could pour this in entertainment media is amazing. But at the same time this is a big reason for a lot of people to underestimate StarWars as art...

    Of one the best scenes, Eye!
     
  3. StarWarsIsMyLife

    StarWarsIsMyLife Jedi Master star 2

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    The scene is also very important to Luke's development. had Yoda not shown Luke how possible something is, Luke may as well have just hauled it in.

    Coupled with the "do or do not," that one sequence is the greatest ever in film. Just genius and sometimes even tear-jerking!
     
  4. YoungAngus

    YoungAngus Jedi Master star 5

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    This is a great scene, but I dont think it is nearly as powerful or emotional as the scene were Jar Jar steps in crap in Mos Espa. That was done with great camrea work, great score, everything about it magnificent.
     
  5. Greedo_forever

    Greedo_forever Jedi Youngling star 3

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    ^^^
    AH HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA!!!

    EDIT: But to add to the discussion constructively:

    Yes, I admit my emotions get very stirred by that scene. In some ways, I think that the Prequels should be watched AFTER the Originals, just to keep scenes like this one awe inspiring.
     
  6. DarthPoppy

    DarthPoppy Jedi Master star 4

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    Indeed Greedo. After the midichlorians bullsh--t, this scene wouldn't work so well--oh too bad Luke doesn't have as many midichlorians as Yoda; what good would believing in himself more do. The PT really hurts the magic of Star Wars and Empire Strikes Back.
     
  7. Brandon Rhea

    Brandon Rhea Manager Emeritus star 5 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    You guys just don't understand the midichlorians. Qui-Gon's speech about midichlorians can go perfectly with Obi-Wan's speech about the Force. Qui-Gon's lesson about the midichlorians explain HOW a Jedi can tap into the "mystical energy" field that Obi-Wan described as the Force. Midichlorians AREN'T the Force, they're like a remote controller the Jedi use to access the Force.

    "Life creates it, makes it grow..." - Yoda, The Empire Strikes Back

    He is essentialy talking about midichlorians in that speech. He is telling Luke that the midichlorians create life, since they live inside cells, and then in turn that life creates the Force. If anything, the midichlorians ADD to the magic of the Force in the OT. It explains it better and it's much more mystical.
     
  8. YoungAngus

    YoungAngus Jedi Master star 5

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    I think he means it would be impossible for Luke to lift out the X Wing anyway because he doesnt have as many midichlrions as Yoda, so it has nothing to do with his faith or abiltiy to use the force it has to do with how many things he has in his cells which he cannot control.
     
  9. DarthPoppy

    DarthPoppy Jedi Master star 4

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    Bingo, YoungAngus!
     
  10. SLAVE2

    SLAVE2 Jedi Knight star 5

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    I think he means it would be impossible for Luke to lift out the X Wing anyway because he doesnt have as many midichlrions as Yoda, so it has nothing to do with his faith or abiltiy to use the force it has to do with has many things he has in his cells which he cannot control.

    Luke probably has more than Yoda actually, since he is Anakin's son. I don't see why those kind of things bother people anyway, I have never once thought about midichlorians while watching Yoda take the X-Wing from the swamp.

    On topic, this is a wonderful scene and easily my favourite from ESB, and probably my third favourite scene from all 6 films. Its pretty much perfect.
     
  11. theBluePhoenix

    theBluePhoenix Jedi Master star 3

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    ?the most inspiring scene in entertainment media ever?

    ?that one sequence is the greatest ever in film. Just genius and sometimes even tear-jerking!


    That is a good scene but the greatest ever?!? Are you kidding?!? Have you seen any other films besides Star Wars?!? What about Schindler?s List, Saving Private Ryan, Million Dollar Baby, The Lord of the Rings films just to name a few? There are plenty of other scenes in the Star Wars films that are more emotional than that.

    IMHO, the purpose of that scene is to show us how powerful Yoda really is and to drive home Yoda?s point of ?size matters not.?
     
  12. YoungAngus

    YoungAngus Jedi Master star 5

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    This was a great scene in Star Wars, but that one guy was right there are plenty of other amazing and tear jerking scenes in other classic motion pictures for instance in the memorable scene in the great american musical 'From Justin to Kelly' I absolutly love the part were Justin and Kelly first meet, I still get chills.
     
  13. StarWarsIsMyLife

    StarWarsIsMyLife Jedi Master star 2

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    The concept of midichlorians doesn't change anything, at least for me. Remember, the Jedi know as much about the Force as we do, which isn't very much in the grand scheme of things. For the Jedi, how the Force works does not matter, it's enough to know the Force is.

    I've seen many movies in my lifetime, but none ever carry the weight and power of this ESB scene. It's so simple in many ways, but it's amazingly powerful.
     
  14. zombie

    zombie Jedi Master star 4

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    Yes, that scene is one of my favourite scenes in movie history--simply MAGICAL! I dont use that word too often but its the only appropriate word i can think of to describe this scene. Simply breathtaking. John Williams music is the best it ever was in Star Wars.


    And guys, the Midichlorians dont take away from the scene at all. As someone even pointed out, Luke probably has more than Yoda, being the son-of-the-chosen-one and all. But that is irrelevant. Luke couldnt lift his ship out of the water because he didnt believe. His midichlorian count is irrelavant. He obviously has enough to do it, but because he doesnt believe he can do it, he is unable to. That is what the scene was about and that hasnt changed. You guys are scrutinizing over details. Midichlorians are no more the Force than a lightning rod is electricity.

    "I dont...i dont believe it."
    "That is why you fail."

    Brilliant. It holds up now as much as it did in 1980.
     
  15. Brandon Rhea

    Brandon Rhea Manager Emeritus star 5 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Oh, now I get what you mean. But, Luke probably has the same midichlorian count than Yoda does, if not a little higher. It's just that Luke psyches himself out and makes him think that he cannot do things, such as lifting an X-Wing out of a swamp. It's only different than lifting a rock in his mind. That is why Yoda said that he failed.
     
  16. StarWarsIsMyLife

    StarWarsIsMyLife Jedi Master star 2

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    It is an absolutely timeless scene.

    If you want to scrutinize over details, think of Midichlorians as an indicator of how much Force a person "oozes." Everyone is connected to the Force, but some exhibit it more than others. Look at it that way, it does not contradict or conflict with anything.
     
  17. Brandon Rhea

    Brandon Rhea Manager Emeritus star 5 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Exactly what I see earlier! Thank you!
     
  18. theBluePhoenix

    theBluePhoenix Jedi Master star 3

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    ...I absolutly love the part were Justin and Kelly first meet, I still get chills.

    Oh...my...God!! You read my mind!
     
  19. StarWarsIsMyLife

    StarWarsIsMyLife Jedi Master star 2

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    That's why Jedi use a Midichlorian count in the first place, as indicated by Qui-Gon. They measure them to see just how well attuned to the Force one is. Everyone is connected, but most do not realize their connection or their bodies and minds do not register to the Force very well. That's what is meant by "strong in the Force."

    Nothing is contradicted or changed by the concept of Midichlorians. Like someone said, they only add to the mystery that is the Force.
     
  20. colivo

    colivo Jedi Youngling star 3

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    I would limit this topic to the most inspiring scene in the Star Wars Saga.

    I would agree it is a great scene, but when Luke is looking out at the twin suns in ANH, and the great music to go along with it, is a damn good scene.

    Also, the exact point when Luke blows up the death star in ANH is another great scene in the saga.

     
  21. YoungAngus

    YoungAngus Jedi Master star 5

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    Yea what about when Vader tells Luke he is his father, or the scene with Luke being electrocuted then Vader tossing Palps down the shaft, or when Anakin chokes Padme and Obi Wan comes out of the ship and all that follows. I would say those are my favorite scenes in the Saga, but this one is good too.
     
  22. MasterWindufan1357

    MasterWindufan1357 Jedi Youngling

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    Well, I have to agree with this because I love Yodas music, it is great, kind of a peacful music something you would associate with wisdom and power and control. The scence in the swamp when he lifts the x wing is very powerful, because in the whole thick of things in ESB in the swamp yoda comes off as well this guy may have been powerful, but in some sense he is kinda of goofy. Well when this scence starts playing and he easily lifts the x wing out of the swamp, it is simply just amazing. but the reason i think this is better after the PT is because in the PT we get a sense of yodas wisdom and the respect he gets from others, and see how powerful he is. and by knowing how powerful he is in the PT it makes the scence that much better because we all understood his power but watching him prove to luke that nothing is impossible with the force especially because we know that luke doesnt understand how powerful he was is better IMO after the PT. Some other very moving moments for me during the trilogy Is when Mace is screwed over by Ani and Yoda has to hold his chest and makes a sad noise or something, i think it showed how much of a connection them two had and how close they were i thought that was moving more so for me because i liked Mace alot, but also i guess you could say when he drops the cane as well out of sadness. the the scene when yoda leaves the wookies and he is sad kinda i like that scence. But another scene is when luke is flying the X wing, and he is starting to lose hope because the odds are against him, and all of a sudden it starts playing lukes music and you hear bens voice say use the force luke, let go.... thats scene is very hard to beat, very hard, well sorry to get off the subject
     
  23. PalpatineAntikristos

    PalpatineAntikristos Jedi Youngling star 3

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    I am a thorough Dark Side and Palpatine/Sidious adept, but this is one of my favorite scenes, as are the twin sunsets in ANH and ROTS. The music is powerful and the imagery is perfect. In ROTS, I wish when Yoda had left the Wookie planet, that the music had been as extensive and intense as this scene in ESB, but they (Burtt?) cut is short. It would have been a nice parallel to see the same music.


    As for the scene itself, it is pretty impressive until you realize that this powerful Jedi master "failed" when facing the Emperor whose powers he underestimated. Yoda thought his rule was too long in ROTS, but here he is living in a swamp. His lifting a ship from a swamp seems insignificant compared to the power of the Emperor in controlling the galaxy.
     
  24. JEDY

    JEDY Jedi Knight star 5

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    StarWarsIsMyLife, I thought the same way about that as you do . It truly speaks to believe and be positive. That nothing is impossible if you set your mind to it . Everything Yoda has spoke, I have taken in because Master Yoda is the BEST advisor in the galaxy . I loved all of the training scenes with Luke and Yoda because they were so inspiring .

    Btw, EVERYTHING about SW drives me wild too . [face_peace] .
     
  25. Tyson

    Tyson Jedi Youngling star 3

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    Except for seeing into the future. Yoda thinks that is impossible.
     
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