Yoda / Minch

It is understood that the Star Wars Tales 1-20 are ambiguously canon. However, there is content there that speaks of Minch, a Jedi Knight on Dagobah who slays a Dark Jedi there. In original drafts of Empire, Minch was a going titile for Yoda's first name. This however was not made canon and is the reason people think that (considering SWT1-20 canon) that this is a tale of a younger Yoda as a Knight.

This cannot be because GL decreed that Yoda had never visited Dagobah prior to his exile there in 19 BBY.

So it's one of two things:

1) The tales are canon and Minch was simply another Jedi Knight of the same unknown tridactyl species as Yoda.
2) The tales are decreed as noncanon and it is ruled out all together.

This clears up the arguments with people so suredly that Minch is the young Yoda. They are different people.

 

Minch is not Yoda. As per Leland Chee.

 

No he didn't.

He wrote, in the script, that Yoda surveyed "unfamilar surroundings".

Don't mistake the crazy ways in which Leland chooses to interpret Lucas as what "GL decreed".

I mean, Leland comes across as incredibly friendly and helpful guy but... well, he takes things far, far, far too literally.

Had I seen that line in the script, my first thought would have been, "I guess Yoda had never been to that part of Dagobah before". Not, "lets trample over the previously established backstory of Yoda to make my interpretation of what Lucas was saying fit".

Same goes for the "no more wookiee jedi" thing. Lucas said, within the context of RotS, that he didn't want a wookiee Jedi. Leland takes this to mean that we can't have any more ever.

Tis just odd.

 

Did I get this correct: That currently Yoda's fight with the Bpfasshi Dark Jedi on Dagobah, a fight which was witnessed by Jorj Cardas and which happened sometime during the Clone Wars, is not canon anymore? Because of the way the ROTS screenplay describes the scene that was cut off from the final version of the film?

 

No, it's canon. It just didn't occur on the actual planet of Dagobah...or somesuch...

 

Maybe the fight was recorded and Jorj Cardas watched the recording on Dagobah.

Thus Jorj Cardas witnessed Yoda defeat the Dark Jedi on Dagobah.



-The Rebel Gungan

 

Good that you are not George Lucas, because that would be canon by tomorrow...

 

I think at this point we should just smile and nod, and hope that when the time comes for the story to be told, they'll go with what was already established instead of this strange "Yoda has never been to Dagobah" before idea.

I wouldn't worry too much about that original Tales story, though. The author was trying to write an accurate tale of Yoda's past, but the only research he did was consulting the online Star Wars databank. He decided to tell the tale of Yoda's battle with the Bpfasshi Dark Jedi, not realizing that it had taken place during the Clone Wars and that Jorj Car'das was involved. It was contradictory when it was published and generally disregarded

That said, if you want to think of it as being within the continuity, the Essential Chronology did leave the door open for multiple Dark Jedi insurrections on Bpfassh. The Dark Jedi of the Clone Wars could have been inspired by a Jedi Master defeated by Yoda hundreds of years before.

TC

 

People assume that what the public sees - the script, Lucas's comments that get published - is all there is. That's not a reasonable assumption, and I suspect the publicly known stuff is only the tip of the iceberg of what Lucas has told Licensing. Just because the public statements leave wiggle room doesn't mean the private notes do.

 

Perhaps.

Until Leland changes his story of why he's done what and whatever, however, I'm sticking with it.

So far, he's only said (to my knowledge): "Yoda has never been to Dagobah before because of the script"

I've got no real reason to doubt that sofar.

 

I should probably mention that the date given in VOTF for that incident is ( after the PT ) no longer accurate, because it places the Clone Wars at the wrong time. Who knew?