ST Official Sequel Trilogy / Legends / Expanded Universe discussion thread

Again that's like half of this entire thread.

 

""Building upon the recent news that Harrison Ford is returning as Han Solo in Episode VII, Showbiz 411 claims that Mark Hamill and Carrie Fisher will ALSO be back as Luke and Leia Skywalker, in a story focusing on their respective children. Any reader of Star Wars EU will instantly recognize the writing on the wall, as names like Jacen, Jaina and Anakin Solo – or Ben Skywalker – are already familiar to them. "

People have made some ridiculous assumptions on this board, but I don't think anything is as ridiculous as this paragraph. He goes from Hamill and Fisher coming back and the story being about their respective children to ,"THE ST IS GONNA BE BASED ON LOTF".

 

Speaking of assumptions and hypotheticals, what about this: the sequel trilgoy has Luke Skywalker married to, say, Pippy Lysol and their daughter is Mary Skywalker, 20 years old. Han & Leia have a son named Fred Solo. He's 15. Chewbacca is his roommate. Would you rather the post ROTJ EU is put off into it's own corner or some sort of continuity re-writing story made to cram it together? I like the later option, it would mean that those stories did happen then a wizard or whatever made it not happen.

 

Noting is more ridiculous then half of the assumptions I have seen in here bar none

 

The fairest assumption to make is that Episode VII has the burden of re-launching SW for a new era. This really is the most important film in the franchise since ESB.

How LFL/Disney intends to re-launch the SW brand is the real question. One thing is clear already, however: they aren't mucking around.

 

I think they'll stick to most of the characters introduced in the EU and simply change them so they fit the storyline. It makes much more sense from a marketing perspective to use already existing side characters because then the original material is basically free advertisement.

I expect Jaina, Jacen and Ben to be roughly the same age (20-25 is a good age). Anakin probably won't exist (using that name in the first place was silly - why not name him "Bail"?). MJ and Chewie will be alive and healthy.

Or maybe Luke is the celibate hero. Then we'll just have Jaina and Jacen. Introducing two new Skywalkers is probably easier than introducing four of them.

 

They'll probably even keep some base character traits.
Jacen is the more melancholic and thoughtful kid, Jaina as his foil is lively and a good pilot, Mara Jade is pragmatic and direct. Should work well enough. Anything beyond base personality and looks will probably undergo some big changes, however.

If the traits I listed don't fit I apologize. I just recently began to read Vector Prime (the book is a bit boring, but I like Jacen).

 

Remember: saying the EU is certain to be overridden is also fan speculation, believe it or not.

 

Some fan speculation has more logic behind it than others though.

I think it's time we call a moratorium on the "is the EU any good?" trail of thought. It's pointless and gets us nowhere.

Instead, we need to divorce our feelings from what we actually think is likely to happen. I like the EU, but I still think the most likely outcome is almost everything post-RotJ being wiped out. Why? Past precedent. When have the movies or TV shows ever worried about contradicting the EU?

 

(Double post.)

 

I believe this too. But I hope for the best for the EU!

 

Yes, but we're also in a very different situation than the prequals. Its no longer Georges story to tell but his draft being played with by tons of writers who have other opinions and running orders stemming from new bosses who have 4 billion dollars to earn back. If Lucas was still in charge Id being sayingthe EU will die, but he isnt anymore so comparingthe prequals to this just doesnt prove or disprove anything.There is no past precedent here, we're in new territorty here.

Im of the opinion of characters and planets being adapted in but edited (characters and plantes are easy tofit in for the most part) with most plots from the EU being whipped out (but some origin stories might remain close). The othere plots/stories will likely be thrown into storage until some writers makes a good pitch of how to use it in the new universe.

 

Well guys, (EU fans in particular) take note - I made the 'mistake' of peeking over at the CW/SA forum (I like the series, so sue me) and without spoiling it for others (some pretty big 'reveals' there on the season finale) one character in particular gets their EU story (including their RotSith comic) completely rewritten and squished over. Just a heads up that it doesn't bode well for your books.

 

Awesome pic by an artist. Hope he will look like this face wise.
http://philnoto.tumblr.com/post/44300586387/jedi-master-luke-skywalker

 

^ Great picture. A beard would work wonders.

 

BLUEEEEEEEEE!!

 

You......GASP......like TCW?

Looks like you do like some EU.

That's good, maybe there is hope for you yet

 

Hey, I've always been pretty honest that its the Post Jedi EU that I really, actively dislike, especially the whole Mara-Mara-Mara thing (and the more I hear, the more I dislike her) funny enough, not one person gave me a rec for works that don't have her in it - I've heard tell of the Han Solo adventures, but I'm not going to wade into the EU forums and the tidal waves of 'canon' discussion...

 

Here's the question then: who is protecting the EU?

JJ Abrams? Michael Ardnt? We have no idea whether they care about the EU. Even if they did, this is their chance to make a contribution to one of the biggest film franchises in history. They'll want to leave their mark on it, not adapt somebody else's characters. Let alone handicap themselves by sticking to established EU lore.

Lucasfilm? They just want to produce good films. They're not going to hire an Oscar-winning scriptwriter and a hot young director only to start bogging them down in details.

Disney? They're not going to have ANY input. As I said in another thread, Disney's only role in the ST is providing the cash and collecting the profits. The idea that they're interested in preserving EU continuity is laughable.

So who in this chain cares about the EU? You know, other than a small segment of the fans.

But if the characters are used and their stories changed, then the singular continuity of the EU has not survived. I have no doubt that characters like Mara Jade, Thrawn and Kyle Katarn will make a comeback. I just imagine that it will be in new EU, reconfigured to match the ST.

 

I think disney may do some spin-off around the EU books just like the clone wars. I mean Bob igar said Star wars has 20,000 years history and 17,000 charceters. I mean now that lucas does not own star wars and its products, we could see some EU stuff into animated movies and t.v.shows. depending on what time frame it takes place.