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ST Official Sequel Trilogy / Legends / Expanded Universe discussion thread

Discussion in 'Sequel Trilogy' started by YoureNotJonesy, Nov 2, 2012.

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  1. kubricklynch

    kubricklynch Jedi Knight star 3

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    I would just write off these things as harmless rumors. But, they are getting people's hopes up that the EU will be included. I think a lot of people are still in denial and gonna be really disappointed.
     
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  2. Allana_Rey

    Allana_Rey Jedi Master star 4

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    Ugh, is it really him?
     
  3. DarthBreezy

    DarthBreezy Chosen One star 6

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    Yep... 'fraid so.
     
  4. Chancellor_Ewok

    Chancellor_Ewok Chosen One star 7

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    Unfortunately. The bane of Star Wars fans everywhere is back. Hopefully Disney will sic its army of lawyers on him and he'll go away for good.
     
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  5. HanSolo29

    HanSolo29 RPF/SWC/Fan Art Manager & Bill Pullman Connoisseur star 7 Staff Member Manager

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    Ugh...you'd think that guy would learn his lesson by now and yet, he's still spreading his poison. Sad. Very sad.
     
  6. DarthBoba

    DarthBoba Manager Emeritus star 9 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    He did get a cease and desist from the supermodels, iirc. :p
     
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  7. Crankcase

    Crankcase Jedi Knight star 1

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    What are you guys talking about? Who is this SS? Do you mean that he runs starwars7news.com? Because that blog is mine and I can assure you no one tells me what to write. Can someone explain to me in PM.
     
  8. Allana_Rey

    Allana_Rey Jedi Master star 4

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    I'm so mad it's him. I really thought that article was legit :/
     
  9. HanSolo29

    HanSolo29 RPF/SWC/Fan Art Manager & Bill Pullman Connoisseur star 7 Staff Member Manager

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    This is the rule of thumb that I use: if it's not from an official source (such as Disney or LFL) or another reputable news outlet (CNN, ABCNews, etc), then it's probably not true. Take everything with a grain of salt, because believe me, if you start believing everything you hear, you'll drive yourself insane. Things are only going to get worse from here on out with everyone and their brother claiming to have sources.

    Looking over that blog again, it links to a site called Lytherus.com as the source of the EU rumor. I read the article on their website and this is what it had to say about their sources: "In addition to this news, we also caught word..." Caught word? Anyone can say that. Something like that sounds very shady to me.
     
  10. Robimus

    Robimus Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    Maybe, but I don't think I've ever seen an advertisement for a Marvel comic anywhere - not even during their cartoon series or films. Yes, MARVEL, is plastered everywhere but that isn't really specific to one title. Maybe they could advertise within their own comics and boost sales that way, that I can see.

    160 million novels sold over 36 years(if that is accurate), 15 million books sold through the Thrawn Trilogy. 700 Barnes & Noble book stores alone, 5700 Walmarts, so on, so forth. To me logic dictates that the number of books sold is significant. Some of these Star Wars books hit the New York Times Best Sellers lists, and while that is no proof of numbers based on how the NYT complies the list, it must represent some significance to the overall sales picture.
     
  11. run_luke_run

    run_luke_run Force Ghost star 4

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    The problem could easily be solved if we could all agree to start calling it AU (alternate) instead of EU (expanded).

    Lucas gave all of us a sci-fi playground to play in. Some very talented authors, game-makers, amateur film-makers, artists, etc. have played in the sandbox. Each of them offer a unique glimpse into what could have been or what could be...why can't it just be left at that?
     
  12. black_saber

    black_saber Force Ghost star 5

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    Yeah no kiddin
     
  13. black_saber

    black_saber Force Ghost star 5

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    Too bad he never metioned battles but I think we may see at least half of them into some of the spin-off movies!!!!!
     
  14. chris hayes

    chris hayes Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Well true or not true , Mark Hamill stated that they are talking to him so EP7 must be 35-45 ABY so why wouldn't the writing team use some of the EU ??? how can it be utter garbage if some elements are true ??? why wouldn't the release date be may 29th 2015 what other date could it be if the Disney head said it was a 2015 release ???.......
     
  15. Darth Xalfrea

    Darth Xalfrea Jedi Master star 4

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    Maybe because they want to keep it grounded at a certain extent and not utilize crap like time travel, alternate realities, etc?

    Doctor Who and Star Trek thrive on those. Star Wars doesn't.
     
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  16. DarthBoba

    DarthBoba Manager Emeritus star 9 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    SuperShadow has been making crap up since AOTC was new. :p
     
  17. LawJedi

    LawJedi Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    No, no, no, I certainly didn't mean TV ads. They just refuse to do that. (Although, curiously, I believe DC attempted TV ads for their New 52 push). I'm talking about advertising within the industry, and within their existing company product. But also, Marvel is really good (or bad, depending on your POV) of getting headlines in places like USA Today for their big event stories.

    I think Marvel would hype like crazy, would have the money to bring A-list talent to the table, and would emphasize an accessible entry point into Star Wars. I would imagine that they would also do something like they did with Tron Legacy, where all of the Marvel heroes are featured for a month on covers in Star Wars costumes and environments. Imagine Wolverine getting a drink in the Cantina, Hulk wrestling a Rancor, or Iron Man in Boba Fett inspired armor. Cheesy yes, but it could bring a lot of lapsed SW readers back.

    As for novel sales numbers, I agree with you, and I would like to learn more about those numbers, as well as the impact of digital. But I'm just saying that it's probably not prudent to compare to monthly comics. Correct me if I'm wrong, but they don't exactly put out a ton of 500 page novels every month, right? I'm as curious about those numbers as you, but I've just never seen the stats. Comics is different, because Diamond is very open about their figures, and fans are always biting their nails about cancellations.
     
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  18. run_luke_run

    run_luke_run Force Ghost star 4

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    You're missing the point entirely, although I get what you are saying.

    My point is, just start considering the "EU" as a world full of possible alternative realities. In one, Chewie dies. In Lucas' version, he doesn't. Why can't the two co-exist?
     
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  19. Darth Xalfrea

    Darth Xalfrea Jedi Master star 4

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    I guess there wouldn't be any harm in that. Like what people said, its not as if the books have a self-destruct mechanism upon deeming of non-canonicity.

    Heck even the EU authors themselves don't particularly care.
     
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  20. kubricklynch

    kubricklynch Jedi Knight star 3

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    Star Wars hasn't up until now. The sale to Disney is an unprecedented situation for Star Wars. "Crap" like time travel and alternate realities is the only way to keep the EU; the Sequel Trilogy sure won't be following it.
     
  21. Darth Xalfrea

    Darth Xalfrea Jedi Master star 4

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    While I'm aware of that, it's just a bit of a shame that after having linearity for so long, they gotta scrap it now. But I suppose the best way is to take the Star Trek route and just deem the EU books outside of the movie/TV show timeline.
     
  22. BigAl6ft6

    BigAl6ft6 Chosen One star 8

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    If Crucible turns out to the the EU-reboot novel that would be a must read/must buy for me and this is coming from a guy who hasn't bought a SW new-release hardcover in almost a decade. It's like "Crisis on Infinite Earths", the last gasp of the old continuity as it's steamrolled for the new. Now, I don't think Crucible will be a reboot novel just cuz it's been mentioned for awhile now and unless the last 50 pages had a total rewrite since November to wipe out the EU and make a new one, when the book was laid out nobody knew there would be an ST aside from, like, George Lucas and Mark Hamill. I think the reference to something that can bend time and space is just another way to phrase a Star Wars-ian superweapon Vol. 6 or whatever.
     
  23. HanSolo29

    HanSolo29 RPF/SWC/Fan Art Manager & Bill Pullman Connoisseur star 7 Staff Member Manager

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    Here's an interesting bit of info: Crucible was announced during SDCC with an original release date of February 2013. It has since been pushed back to July 2013. Now, the delay could be coincidence and simply the normal workings of the business or perhaps it was done in preparation of the Episode VII announcement and their desire to tie it in somehow? Again, I can't say either way, but it's something to think about.

    But if the reference to the artifact is exactly what you say, then yeah...not impressed. After all this time, you'd think they'd give the whole galaxy-shattering superweapon thing a rest.
     
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  24. Robimus

    Robimus Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    We shall see how much Disney , keeps or erases with time. Right now I doubt you or I truly knows how this will play out.

    The EU has been altered before and patched back together to some semblence of itself.

    I suspect the artifact they will be searching for is a tie to the Lucas inspired TCW stuff from the Mortis arc.
     
  25. Elikal

    Elikal Jedi Youngling

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    Well, I assume 3 things can be seen as very likely about Sequel Trilogy. (Sidenote: If 1-3 are the Prequels and 7-9 are the Sequels, what are 4-6? The Quels? The Equals???)

    Anywho.

    1) All SW movies were centered around the Skywalkers.
    2) All SW movies had Jedi in their central plot.
    3) All SW movies were numbered in chronology.

    So we can assume negatively:

    -1) Ep VII will not about about "new" characters, but the Skywalkers, or rather their descendants WILL play a mayor role.
    -2) Don't expect Ep VII revolve around non Jedi, like "The Adventures of Boba Fett" or whatever.
    -3) Ep. VII will be AFTER Ep. VI in timeline, not going back, no parallel story asf.

    Of course they CAN make it anything. But then the numbers VII, VIII and IX would not make sense. They have the promised "feature films" for extra topics. Just my 2 cents. I am also quite sure they will use NO EU material. I can't exactly tell you why, but... the Force tells me so. ;) Nah, hehe. It's just... I just don't see the new Star Wars start with a story we all know from the books. I simply don't see that.
     
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