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ST ST lightsaber battles. Mirror PT or OT?

Discussion in 'Sequel Trilogy' started by therealharvywallbanger, Oct 30, 2013.

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Should ST lightsaber battles resemble the OT or the PT? You have to pic one

  1. OT

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  2. PT

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  1. Ryus

    Ryus Jedi Master star 4

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    Apperantly the PT sword stunt coordinator isn't 'likely' returning

    http://clubjade.net/?p=55855

    https://mobile.twitter.com/TheNickGillard/statuses/402742805665423360?screen_name=TheNickGillard
     
  2. Mystery Roach

    Mystery Roach Chosen One star 4

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  3. Ryus

    Ryus Jedi Master star 4

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    Maybe... His loss was a necessary loss. Soon we will have a new sword stunt coordinator, one far younger and more powerful.[face_devil]
     
  4. I Are The Internets

    I Are The Internets Shelf of Shame Host star 9 VIP - Game Host

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    He's going to wander the Earth and save people like David Carradine from Kung-Fu.
     
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  5. A Chorus of Disapproval

    A Chorus of Disapproval Head Admin & TV Screaming Service star 10 Staff Member Administrator

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    No... for the sake of reliving my childhood, they need to hire zombie Bob Anderson to choreograph thrilling, action-packed duels.
     
  6. sluggo1313.

    sluggo1313. Jedi Knight star 4

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    Good, bring someone new in, see what they can bring to the table.
     
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  7. Mystery Roach

    Mystery Roach Chosen One star 4

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    This makes me wonder if it's yet another signal of an attempt to return to the aesthetic of the OT. Also the way he said "very very unlikely" makes me curious about whether there could be some bad blood between Gillard and someone involved. Has he ever worked with Abrams?
     
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  8. sluggo1313.

    sluggo1313. Jedi Knight star 4

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    Its not one or the other. If they don't make all the fights look like PT ones doesn' tmean their only other option is to look like OT ones.
     
  9. T-R-

    T-R- Chosen One star 5

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    wait, he didn't meant camera flash and lens flare?
     
  10. Darth Raiden

    Darth Raiden Jedi Master star 3

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    :( well If it is the case, I hope they bring in Yuen Woo-ping
     
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  11. I Are The Internets

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    I hope they bring in the Three Stooges for fight choreography.
     
  12. Revanfan1

    Revanfan1 Force Ghost star 6

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    Too bad. Gillard did good work. But doubtless they'll find someone good. Look at the countless amazing swordfighting movies out there...some choreographer somewhere is dying for this job.
     
  13. Darkslayer

    Darkslayer Hater of Mace Windu star 7

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  14. Force Smuggler

    Force Smuggler Chosen One star 7

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    Sad for Nick but not that bummed. New style! Alright!
     
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  15. T-R-

    T-R- Chosen One star 5

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    I liked Nick's choreography for the most part. I'm just hoping there is less of this:

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    and more of this:

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  16. I Are The Internets

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    HELP WE'VE LOST CONTROL OF OUR LIMBIC FUNCTIONS
     
  17. Force Smuggler

    Force Smuggler Chosen One star 7

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    ROTJ FTW! I love the struggle when 2 lightsabers connect and they try to push the other away. Or ESB on the catwalk at the end before Vader tells Luke "You are beaten, it is useless to resist, Don't let yourself be destroyed as Obi-Wan did.
     
  18. DarthBellikose

    DarthBellikose Jedi Master star 2

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    It would be good to see a mix of both the PT and OT duel's, I thought the duels in the PT lacked the passion and emission that the OT duels had but the OT's lacked the choreography of the PT duels. Perhaps Ray Park would make a good choreographer for the ST? It would be good to see that Luke has fully mastered the lightsaber since the OT
     
  19. T-R-

    T-R- Chosen One star 5

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    I don't know:

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  20. HankSolo

    HankSolo Jedi Master star 3

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    I think that had more to do with the earlier CGI technology, but I understand your point.
     
  21. sluggo1313.

    sluggo1313. Jedi Knight star 4

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    I've said it before, and I'm sure I'll say it again, this is the how the fights should look.



    Entertaining and fun to watch while also conveying a sense of weight and mean and danger into every move. Its "fancy" but nothing that looks like a waisted movement. There are lots of quick cuts to increase the sense of speed, urgency and danger, but you're never lost and can always tell whats going on. Most impressively enough, the fight itself tells a story, Guy clearly has the advantage early on and is being more aggressive and Balin spend the fight slowly chopping him down until he has him on his knees. Fight scenes that use the action to tell a story rather then show people clashing are always more interesting and more intense. They feel more like a fight and less like an demonstration.

    The two people who choreographed Kingdom of Heaven were Simon Atherton (also worked on Gladiator, Bourne Ultimatum and V for Vendetta) and CC Smiff (who also worked on Gladiator and Game of Thrones)
     
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  22. Circular Logic

    Circular Logic Jedi Master star 4

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    [​IMG]

    "****! I HATE it when I get my Schwartz twisted!"
     
  23. I Are The Internets

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    Well as long as there isn't any horrific shaky-cam during the fight scenes, I'm game.
     
  24. Darth Raiden

    Darth Raiden Jedi Master star 3

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    I actually didn't mind that and in a way it made sense... as well as freaking cool when you're nine years old :D
     
  25. Pro Scoundrel

    Pro Scoundrel New Films Expert At Modding Casual star 6 Staff Member Manager

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    The only problem I have with this is the Obi-Wan twirling. And, I could live with it as long as the battle turns out as great as this one.
     
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