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ST Daisy Ridley (Rey) in Episode VII

Discussion in 'Sequel Trilogy' started by Chained Prometheus, Apr 30, 2014.

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  1. DARTH MUPPET

    DARTH MUPPET Jedi Grand Master star 3

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    Which costume? The one from the other "Cyborg" picture?
     
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  2. Satipo

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    Going off the pre-casting concept of the embrace we've all seen, I would be hugely surprised if that wasn't the Daisy character. We do (all of us) tend to look for convoluted options when the simple and most obvious answer is often staring us in the face (me included)!
     
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  3. Zuckuss the Ruckuss

    Zuckuss the Ruckuss Jedi Master star 4

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    Agreed.
     
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  4. MakingStarWars

    MakingStarWars Jedi Master star 4

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    Her droid is in the picture. Her droid from the start of the film she takes with her everywhere ends up there too. Why would her droid save some other chick wearing her clothes? I think we can make some safe assumptions here.
     
  5. DARTH MUPPET

    DARTH MUPPET Jedi Grand Master star 3

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    Nothing I said to Jason was unfair. He's talking about things WE haven't seen yet and as I clearly stated, once I saw the other artwork, I disagreed with his interpretation on some of it. It stands to reason that if THIS newest piece of artwork came out, some of us might disagree with his interpretation of this one as well.
     
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  6. Lurknomore

    Lurknomore Jedi Knight star 4

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    Agreed.

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  7. Zuckuss the Ruckuss

    Zuckuss the Ruckuss Jedi Master star 4

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    I think for things like context or plot points. yeah I can understand that. But I think it would be fairly obvious that this character is "Kira" because he has other pieces of concept art that seem to corroborate with it. Now, you want to argue who the mysterious cyborg is: have at it.

    Just seems like silly thing to get hung up about...
     
  8. MakingStarWars

    MakingStarWars Jedi Master star 4

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    How do you know I don't have 5 more of the 1 thing you saw? Because sometimes that's the way it is. I don't know what your "problems" were but more often than not, my interpenetration is colored by the collective works and not just the one piece. Not all the time. Sometimes I made mistakes, sure.

    But you're just saying I'm not credible and until you see it with your own eyes you're going to cross you arms and not believe anything is right. That's a little much, I think.
     
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  9. Lurknomore

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    I think it's more likely that they would play around with hair color, clothing design, etc. in the concept art than the identity of the character herself. So the blonde hair probably doesn't mean much. It could still be Daisy, just before they finalized her look.

    The participants in the scene and the actions going on in the scene should be more reliable than the look, because the look can be changed without altering the narrative. Whether or not the girl is Daisy, however, couldn't be played with without making some huge story changes.
     
  10. MakingStarWars

    MakingStarWars Jedi Master star 4

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    I don't believe any of the hero actors in the sequence are meant to depict the casting. The concept art went down before the casting was done. They weren't going to double their budget to go back and make sure all the art looks like Daisy Ridley. Concept art serves a function. There's no reason for it look like Ridley at all.
     
  11. DARTH MUPPET

    DARTH MUPPET Jedi Grand Master star 3

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    I'll be quiet from now on, but I just really don't see how it's a bad thing to be skeptical of something that only ONE person has seen.
     
  12. MakingStarWars

    MakingStarWars Jedi Master star 4

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    What's better? I keep it to myself? I feel like I'm doing you a service by sharing and you're deciding I'm doing you a disservice.

    If you don't want it to be Ridley's character, fine. But I can't change the fact that it is. That she's wearing the same costume as the concept art for her costume. That is her crew she's with for the entire film.

    There's a better way to be. I think this way is lazy. If you doubt something or want clarification, ask for it. I've done my best to be extremely forthcoming and accessible. If the undercurrent is pouty pants because I won't post the art, there's nothing I can do there. I don't have permission to do it.
     
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  13. Lurknomore

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    It wouldn't exactly require them to double their budget to make concept art after casting has been completed. And we all know that they will eventually release some official concept art to promote the movie. Those pictures won't have confusing visual discrepancies in them.

    If the characters still don't look (facially) like the actors, it could still be that these images pre-date casting and that there are even more recent artworks yet to be leaked.

    It's not a bad thing, and you don't have to be quiet. We were just explaining why we think it probably is Daisy Ridley's character.
     
  14. Satipo

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    For all we know they did o back and produce concepts with the actors' likenesses once they had been cast. I will be amazed if no concepts exist with likenesses of the cast. That doesn't mean the pre-casting concepts aren't valid.
     
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  15. Zuckuss the Ruckuss

    Zuckuss the Ruckuss Jedi Master star 4

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    Not to mention, that each concept artist could be given some sort of artistic license. We don't know the guidelines of the art department for the production.
     
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  16. MakingStarWars

    MakingStarWars Jedi Master star 4

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    Work that was commencing after casting most likely does depict the actors in some way. It would be surprise me if the Phantom of the Opera like piece we're talking about now was finalized with Ridley because its going to be a huge piece of art for the film if the sequence is in the film still.

    For Return of the Jedi they used concept art where the Emperor was an alien. They went back and fixed that stuff for mass consumption. But I'm sure no one working on the film was so slow it confused them greatly.
     
  17. DARTH MUPPET

    DARTH MUPPET Jedi Grand Master star 3

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    Wow..."pouty pants"? Real mature dude. I never said you should post the art here. In fact, I'd be pissed if you did as that would probably cost someone their job. Also, I never said it COULDN'T be Ridley's character, merely that I was skeptical of whether or not it was. I also never said you were doing a disservice by describing the artwork, but as someone who has been here since the prequels, I've learned to be extremely skeptical of people describing things that only they have seen... even if it is someone who has gotten things right in the past.

    Like I said though, I'll be quiet from now on... Cheers!
     
  18. Lurknomore

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    It's impossible to know either way. I do know, though, that concepts that reflect the final appearances of the actors are more likely to be up-to-date than concepts that were clearly made before they knew what the cast would look like.
     
  19. soul8luos

    soul8luos Jedi Master star 4

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    Or there is another answer, blond is her true hair color. :)
     
  20. EHT

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    People have the right to be skeptical. Also, personal insults are not allowed.
     
  21. CrazyOldJedi

    CrazyOldJedi Chosen One star 6

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    That embrace is not one that a newly met enemy would use, it's more familiar than that. If it's not Luke (please) in the mask then I'm going to say it's Kira's brother or even cousin.
     
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  22. Lurknomore

    Lurknomore Jedi Knight star 4

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    Or maybe it's all a dream...
     
  23. EHT

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    Yes, like a vision one might have in a cave...
     
  24. HL&S

    HL&S Magistrate Emeritus star 7 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Yeah. Gotta keep that in mind.

    I'd also like to know if Boyega is there with an alien and the droid, what ship did they all get in to get there? The one concept piece shows the Falcon. If the Falcon is there, where is Han?

    If all of them got off Tatooine earlier in the film then they didn't all cram into a blue X-Wing.
     
  25. Lurknomore

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    Also: Where is the third "new young lead"? We haven't heard much (any) of him in this concept art.

    Mysteries, mysteries...
     
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