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Should Shaak Ti be killed by Anakin?

Discussion in 'Star Wars TV- Completed Shows' started by StarWarsFan91, May 13, 2015.

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Should she be killed by Vader?

  1. Yes

    14 vote(s)
    42.4%
  2. No

    11 vote(s)
    33.3%
  3. maybe

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    24.2%
  1. StarWarsFan91

    StarWarsFan91 Force Ghost star 4

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    Should her being killed by Anakin be made canon?

    In yoda's vision in season 6 of TCW, we saw her being stabbed from behind by unseen foe by a blue blade (implied to be Anakin, and mimics a deleted scene in ROTS where he does just that).

    Though in the old EU she survived past Order 66 and was killed in TFU.

    And being killed by Grievious during ROTS never counted as canon.

    So what do you think her fate should be in the new canon? Killed by Anakin during Order 66? Survive past ROTS? Or killed pre-ROTS?
     
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  2. jakobitis89

    jakobitis89 Jedi Master star 4

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    The poor girl has been killed so many times I say she finally gets a break and is allowed to retire peacefully. Though logically she probably SHOULD be killed by Anakin when he attacks the Temple and I suspect this was her ultimate fate we just never got to see it.
     
  3. Darth Valkyrus

    Darth Valkyrus Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Nope. That was a totally punk way to go out. Between her depictions in the miniseries and TFU, Ti comes across as one of the top tier powerhouses, possibly the most powerful female in the order, the female Mace. Getting casually shanked from behind by anyone, including Anakin / Vader, would be a disservice. If Ti has to go out, she must give a damn good account of herself first.

    She did that when she took on ISD-grabbing uber Sith prodigy boy in TFU, and almost killed him. She did it when she grabbed an electrostaff and waded through an army of magnaguards in the miniseries, and make a punk out of Grievous. If they show another death for her in Rebels, or in a spinoff film or anything else, let her show her power on the way out, in a way that leaves nobody in doubt as to how powrful she was.
     
  4. Chris0013

    Chris0013 Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Kill her in Rebels....give Vader his evil henchman cred by taking out a Jedi Master.
     
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  5. Mother_Talzin

    Mother_Talzin Jedi Master star 4

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    Lucas removed that scene from ROTS for a reason, and approved using Shaak Ti in TFU. Unless Rebels adds her to the series, I'm considering her storyline in TFU as her ultimate fate. I think they should leave the character alone, even if her fate is considered a "Legend" now.
     
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  6. whostheBossk

    whostheBossk Force Ghost star 4

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    I would say yes Lucas added her to TFU, but until that whole campaign is made canon (which it should be) then I say when Yoda has his vision in Season 6 of her dying, that is the scene with Anakin (Vader at this point) that was cut and thou shall be made her unimpressive death...for now.
     
  7. sarlaccsaurs-rex

    sarlaccsaurs-rex Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    TF1 should be canon.

    Just ignore TFU 2, and in season 2 of rebels have the larger rebellion reference the events of TFU1 to the ghost crew.

    I could picture Kota as a cool character for the show. Look at the rebel troopers in the season 1 finale, they look a lot like Kota's men (the early rebel troops in tfu.)
     
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  8. Trebor Sabreon

    Trebor Sabreon Former Manager star 5 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Darth Vader eventually gets his 'revenge' on Obi-Wan Kenobi (in a sense of the word), yes.

    But what about the period described by Ben Kenobi, where Vader "helped the Empire hunt down and destroy the Jedi Knights"?


    "Knights," Ben mentions. But I think that the idea of Darth Vader being responsible for killing at least some of the more powerful Masters on the Jedi Council feels right.

    But who...?

    - Yoda and Kenobi retreat safely into exile.

    - Vader had a... hand [face_tee_hee] in Windu's demise, yes. But ultimately, I think of Mace as a victim of Sidious'.

    - Sidious also personally dispatches with Kit Fisto, Saesee Tiin and Agen Kolar.

    - Plo Koon, Ki-Adi-Mundi and Stass Allie are all KIA by their own troops.

    - We know Depa Billaba goes down in front of Caleb Dume.


    So if not Shaak Ti, who else is left for Vader to take on?

    Coleman Kcaj? [face_dunno]

    Meh.


    But Shaak-Ti?

    Thanks to TCW, Shaak-Ti is a character we got to know.

    We have an appreciation of Ti's power. We know she is a skilled and fierce warrior. So her defeat would equal a fine demonstration of Vader's own abilities.

    We have an appreciation of Ti's judgment and conviction. We know she is a wise being. So her death is a loss for the citizenry of the galaxy.

    We have an appreciation of Ti's empathy and compassion. We know she is a caring being of conscience. So we, the audience, would mourn her loss.


    The idea of Vader killing Shaak-Ti is not just some fanciful notion without any basis in reality. It is an idea which was (at least for some time) firmly rooted in George Lucas' intentions for the character. I think that matters.

    Lucas ultimately didn't see it through, no. But we don't know whether he rejected the idea of Vader killing Shaak-Ti outright, as an inappropriate end for Shaak-Ti, or if the scene was cut, for example, due to time constraints? Or maybe George didn't care for how the performance the cameras captured actually looked? Or maybe any of one hundred other reasons? And so Lucas opted not to include the scene in the film.


    So, for anyone who likes the idea: How would you see it happen? Do we just open a novel or comic book one day and read about Vader's reminiscing about slaughtering Master Shaak-Ti during his march on the Jedi Temple?

    Or -- as I think I much prefer -- might we one day learn that Shaak-Ti survived the execution of Order 66, only for her to meet her fate at the hand of Darth Vader years later?

    And if so, how would you like to see it happen? During an episode of Rebels? That might be okay.

    Or how about in a live action series?

    Maybe even in a film? I think I like this idea best of all.

    I'd love to see Darth Vader feature in a dark times Anthology film. And seeing the showdown between Vader and Shaak-Ti, as they confront one another in a lightsaber duel to the death, could be incredible.

    That's my vote. :)
     
  9. Docgeo

    Docgeo Jedi Knight star 1

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    I am completely bias because Ti and Ashoka are my favorite Characters.

    I would love to find out she had trained Ashoka during the intervening years and shows up to save Ashoka from Vader. During this rescue she dies in the process. If she has to go that would be a great way to go!
     
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  10. Vorax

    Vorax Force Ghost star 5

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    Personally I'd prefer her and Maris Brood as master and apprentice in maybe a season 4 storyline tying into TFU. Not sure how realistic that is but whatever.
     
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  11. Darth Dnej

    Darth Dnej Jedi Master star 4

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    I think she should. In the current canon, Vader does not have any impressive Jedi victims that I can think of (save perhaps for Obi-Wan who was past his prime). Shaak Ti's death at Vader would be quite an impactful scene if done correctly.
    Btw, I would want her killed by Vader in Rebels. I don't really find the idea of her being killed by pre-suit Vader as particularly appealing.
     
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  12. StarWarsFan91

    StarWarsFan91 Force Ghost star 4

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    I actually prefer pre-suit Vader to do it. For one thing, its not a typical sith killing a Jedi, but a former friend, who's outward appearance and weapon is still that of a Jedi during this time. Not only that but it can be argued that pre-suit Vader is more powerful without the suit, since he is not on life support. That could be an advantage when fighting her.

    A way to show suitless Vader killing her in Rebels, is to give us a flashback. Maybe what really happened is that Shaak Ti was not caught by surprise and stabbed from behind. She realized the Temple was being attacked and encounters Anakin. And with him not being covered in armor during this time, it can allow Shaak Ti when seeing Anakin, to think at first he is a friend/Jedi, though realizing he has become a monster. And unlike the children, she can put up a fight. However Anakin should still kill her in the end.

    It will also give us a chance to see how powerful Vader before the suit is, if he is able to to duel a Jedi Master like Shaak Ti, and kill her. And also a duel between a Jedi, in which his emotions are not clouding his judgment, causing him to lose (i.e with Obiwan).

    Its also a chance to give us another blue vs blue duel in star wars.
     
  13. Cheerios4u98

    Cheerios4u98 Jedi Knight star 3

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    I like how she went out in The Force Unleashed best. TFU1 had a great story in my opinion. TFU2's story was not good (though the novel was actually very entertaining. Much better than the game) and ended on a cliffhanger that will never be resolved, but the first one was great. I'd love it if they tied in that story to Rebels somehow. Dumb down Starkiller's powers, but other than that keep the story.
     
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  14. jakobitis89

    jakobitis89 Jedi Master star 4

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    Dumb down Starkiller's powers though and he's not really Starkiller any more - for me, anyway. The games are pretty fun and all but he's just too overpowered to fit neatly into the bigger picture, sadly. Unless there is an Inquisitor who just so happens to look like Starkiller and is Vader's prized agent or something, instead of an actual official-but-secret apprentice....
     
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  15. SilentGuy66

    SilentGuy66 Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Shaak Ti will clearly die again in the new canon if she was stupid enough to get herself killed multiple times in legends.........
     
  16. jakobitis89

    jakobitis89 Jedi Master star 4

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    I now have a new dream Star Wars spin-off movie: The Life (And Deaths) Of Shaak Ti. Whereby we see and hear an anthology of Shaak's most amazing adventures and fights only for her to die at the end of each in increasingly spectacular ways. And the last and most spectacular of them all is told by Shaak herself... who walks away at the end into legend.
     
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  17. Darth Valkyrus

    Darth Valkyrus Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Shaak Ti: Space Kenny.
     
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  18. Jedi Knight Fett

    Jedi Knight Fett Chosen One star 10

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    you ******* you killed Shaak
     
  19. mes520

    mes520 Jedi Master star 4

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    Don't you mean Vader?

    Ugh, honestly I just wish they pick one of her deaths already.

    Or even surprise us and Shaak Ti survived and is still alive in the ST era.
     
  20. jabberwalkie

    jabberwalkie Jedi Master star 4

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    LOL..... This popped into my head when I read this:


    I say this with the understanding of how some interpret events and dialogue in the OT.
     
  21. Jedi Knight Fett

    Jedi Knight Fett Chosen One star 10

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    OT is Love OT is Life:p
     
  22. DANNASUK

    DANNASUK Force Ghost star 7

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    Bring her into Rebels and have her killed by Vader. Or making the deleted RoTS scene canon.
     
  23. ObsGryphon

    ObsGryphon Jedi Padawan star 1

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    That would be fun and it could work; she leaps to hammer Vader just as the team of Rebel infiltrators snuck off with the DS plans. :p
     
  24. Agent M

    Agent M Jedi Padawan star 2

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    No, the starkiller should do it.​
    I think it's a better storyline than just have pre-suit Vader go to the Jedi Temple and kill her so quickly.​
     
  25. Vorax

    Vorax Force Ghost star 5

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    Vos was to have been killed on an AT-TE vehicle in ROTS but the scene was never completed. Quite a few of the Jedi's fates are unresolved.
     
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