Full Series Ahsoka in Rebels

That is a good question. Like jakobitis89 and Darth_Pevra already mentioned, the old EU said that Vader couldn't do force lightning because of his artificial hands. But I don't know if an explanation exists in the new canon. It could be that they go with the EU explanation because they are mining it for ideas, or it is possible that this is radically altered and that we see Vader do force lightning in the new canon. But then this leads to the question why he didn't use it in the OT.

Edit: And I thinkh they already distance themselves from the EU Vader who was described to be an emo who mourned every day his late wife, but in the new canon they want to make him menacing again - an evil incarnate, like you said. So it's likely that they go a different route with the question whether Vader can do force lightning or not.

 

Specifically, in the junior novelization of ROTS.

 

Ultimately, Vader doesn't do lightning because that's not his thing. If he wants to kill you then he'll just throttle you instead. It's not as flashy or destructive but he probably gets some degree of satisfaction out of literally strangling someone to death even if he doesn't go hands-on. Dooku shouldn't really have done it either in my opinion - it should be Palpatine's signature trick, something that only he can do, but the cat is out of that particular bag now.

 

Well the EU explanation was that most of his body being cybernetic precluded him from doing it. If he'd attempted it he would have killed himself.

In the absence of any other explanation, we might as well regard the EU explanation as still being in play, until they either confirm it in nucanon or come up with something different.

 

wait...i thought he couldn't do Force lightning because his hands and forearms are robotic.

 

That WAS true... but only ever stated in sources that are now no longer canon (I think.) So we all assume it's the case still but there's no definite answer as yet. Probably just too obvious to need addressing to most minds I guess!

 

Yea, it's in limbo. If someone thinks that Vader doing lightning looks badass on the big screen, then it will probably happen.

Force lightning isn't all that effective if you want to kill someone, it is a technique more useful to torture and awe in my opinion. Breaking an opponents neck with the force ought to be the fastest and most efficient method of killing.

 

I wonder with whom Ahsoka is sparring all the time while honing her force and lightsaber-skills all that Empire-time. Obi-Wan?

 

Does she have to be sparring with anyone in particular? We'd have thought at this point Obi-Wan has essentially retreated to becoming a hermit on Tattooine (looking after Luke as he's raised by the Lars family).

 

Maybe she found a PROXY droid, like the one Vader used to train Starkiller in TFU.

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/PROXY

 

"Good against remotes is one thing. Good against the living...is something else."

Tano already proved she was good against the living, and training droids are made for , training. So if that if thats some sorta snarky out down it does not work.

*Han was being bitter and cocky cause Luke just did the impossible by hitting all the bolts blind folded and showed Han up who is not used to being proved wrong and showed up. Luke would use the same technique when he put away the targeting computer and fired on the Death Star at the end of the movie.

Tano has a new set of armor and weapons and is both physically and mentally fit & she's been aiding in orchestrated widespread rebellion against the Empire and Bail has allied and entrusted her, so for this guy to place his stock in this warrior person, speaks quite highly of her mettle and capability as a warrior and commander.

I doubt they'd make Vader a one dimensional caricature unless he makes very small appearances. Their treatment of Dooku, Grievous & Ventress, or Maul, Opress & Talzin does not place any weight in Vader being used in such a manner. And Dooku and Grievous were defeated and plots often foiled on TCW so Vader won't be winning every engagement. Ahsoka seems to be the Kenobi/Anakin of Rebels while Kanan and Ezra take the place of Ashoka(and Luke even) until these characters come of age or replace fallen characters. Rebels is about a group of underdogs that triumph over the giant aggressive. So far Rebels has been like any other kids cartoon or SW story, good guys beating the bad guys and often embarrassing so. Tarkin so far as been a dud, his biggest accomplishment was bowing up his own communications tower that actually ended up working to her heroes advantage anyway. The longer Vader appears and the more frequent, eventually they'll have show some kinks in Vader's armor as deep down he's still Anakin Skywalker and their was still some vestiges of that shown at the end of ROTS and Luke said it himself, "the emperor has not driven from you fully."

The only one dimensional character is likely be The Emperor, and this character could well make more appearances as time goes like what was done on TCW the longer this show lasts.

 

Pretty sure he doesn't use force lightning due to the fact that it hurts him more than others. I bet he can but doesn't because then his suit would malfunction and he'd be a target (if the lack of Respiration doesn't kill him first)

 

I thought Kallus would be on the chopping block now that Vader's involved. But in "The Siege of Lothal", he seems to work BETTER with Vader than he did with Tarkin or the Inquisitor. In fact, having just seen the trailer the morning before watching the premiere and the Bad Batch screening the day before, I felt that Kallus seemed like "Evil Rex" when he's with Vader.

 

I doubt Vader could use Lightning and I'm glad regardless that he didn't. Likewise that Dooku did. It's awesome he shows Sidious wasn't alone in that. Unlike it seems many here 'power play' is so not what interests me in SW.

 

I doubt that they have a free pass to use Vader so often as to turn him into the next TCW Dooku or Grievous.

I am pretty sure, and what I've seen so far seems to confirm it, that one of the showmakers tasks is to introduce a generation of kids to classic and popular Star Wars characters like Lando, Yoda or now Vader. Those classic characters will be presented in the very best light, some of their traits amplified (in Lando's case turned to 11 ridiculous levels) so that the kids get sucked in and want to see more of those characters. Which will then, of course, be provided by the Spinoffs and Episodes.

 

Speaking of Yoda; is it possible that Ahsoka may have honed in on her Jedi training with him on Dagobah?

 

Ahsoka is not even supposed to be a Jedi anymore, dammit.

 

They'd have to explain how she knew what happened to Yoda in the aftermath of ROTS/Order 66. I don't know or remember if Bail knew where he went, but Kenobi likely did as evidenced by directing Luke to go to Dagobah. Personally, I don't think Yoda or Kenobi held that high of an opinion of her after she left the Order in TCW so I'd imagine either of them would be less inclined to help her. Kind of goes back to Yoda asking force ghost/voice Kenobi if Luke would finish what he begins in ESB.

And? She isn't a Jedi, she left the Order and we don't know how many of the teaching she has held to in the interim time being. She may have realized that she can never become a Jedi Knight of old, but has to reinvent herself to become something new. I think Kanan will have to come to that realization as well, as has been theorized around here before. Also, I'm not sure that any of the characters in the show can really become Jedi in the traditional sense or that it really matters. As demonstrated by multiple people on this forum, the general consensus is that anyone who isn't a Sith/dark side force user is by default a Jedi. No matter how inaccurate or incomplete our understanding of what makes a Jedi, a Jedi.

 

Emphasis mine.

I doubt they'd be that dumb. I don't see Vader ever getting captured by a bunch of ragtag pirates with the help of a monkey lizard (Dooku) or defeated by Gungans (Grievous)... just sayin'.

 

What's the point of the end of TCW when she becomes a Ledi, a Jedi in all but name? I just ... expected more? Like real character development and her turning into something different than she was before?

 

We've been around this merry go round before. I'm not interested in rehashing why she isn't a Jedi. At any rate, what's to say that she won't be different? Are you basing this assumption on her 30 seconds of screen time in the finale?

 

What makes someone a "Jedi", in the "truest" sense of the word? Luke proclaimed, "I am a Jedi, like my father before me"; considering Yoda told him he would become one after facing Vader. How convenient

 

Maybe Ahsoka learned to talk with Qui-gon and he taught her how to follow the will of the Force. Not the light side like the Jedi or the dark side like the Sith, just the Force as a whole. She’ll never be a traditional Jedi like Yoda and Obi-wan are but maybe something to the effect of what the Jedi should have been.