Full Series Ahsoka in Rebels

Isn't Qui-gon on Tatooine, teaching Obi-wan on how to become a ghost ?

 

If you want to get reallly technical he might have known her when she was a little kid. IIRC she joined the order, aged 3, about 1 year before Qui-Gon was killed. And the EU (I know I know) had Qui-Gon being a good friend of Plo who found her and looked after her up until she was apprenticed to Anakin.

So during that year, aged 3 - 4, she might have known Qui-Gon. Not that she would probably remember much of him. You don't normally remember much from that age.

I guess this is a case of splitting hairs.

 

I'm of the opinion that the individual being contacted by the force ghost (I feel like I am writing a bad syfy show line), has to have some kind of connection that like Kenobi and Yoda had with Luke. They both trained him, and had a deep connection.

 

I don't think she knew where Yoda is. If there's any chance she might think he's still alive, she may have an experience similar to what Kanan had at the temple, if she found one. She would go where the Force directs her, to hone her skills and not necessarily need to meet Yoda at all.

Neither party parted on good terms. Yoda in particular, seemed to feel guilt and failure (S6 , vision ep, his demeanor when she left). Blinded and befuddled, he couldn't even sense the sith hiding in his own yard and only realised how far the Jedi had fallen, how weak they were and the axe that cannot be avoided in S6. I doubt he would refuse to help / guide Ahsoka or any surviving Jedi if they managed to learn he's alive or if he's aware of them. He and Kenobi did not put all their hopes in one basket, Luke. Leia was to be the backup if Luke fails. Would they be so foolish as to halt at those two in their plans and hopes?

 

i think the only person that knew where Obi-Wan or Yoda was , is Bail.

 

Why would Bail then by this logic, he's no Jedi where he can resist and can keep that information a secret like a Jedi or Force sensitive could under torture. Am sure Tano could've read Bail's mind quite easily any time she wanted to if she felt he was hiding information on Jedi like Kenobi and Yoda. Probably does not matter as Kanan and Ezra could talk to Tano and tell her Yoda is alive. Yoda is not 100% keeping his presence a secret after all during this period and its theoretically possible Sidious feels Yoda's presence in the Force anytime Yoda uses the Force. He may have some part in the formation of the Rebel Alliance we do not know about, who knows. Yoda may not even be on Dagobah during this period.

 

I personally don't think that Sidious or left alone Ahsoka could hack themselves into Bail's mind to find Yoda. That would be absurdely easy. But I know Yoda would help her when she is led to him in some way. Yoda would not forget her cry for help at, was it Korriban?, in his visionary dream in the TCW-Yoda-arc season six. The Jedi-Order isn't anymore. So neither Yoda nor Obi-Wan might be to nitpicking who is still considered to be a true Jedi deserving help and guidance and who is not.

 

If Ahsoka was able to contact Yoda or Obi-Wan, (which I doubt Bail would just let go that info since the reason he theoretically knows is because of Leia and he sure isn't letting that cat out of the bag, and I don't think Jedi mind tricks are straight up mind reading) they really can't be offering more than minimal emotional support. Both would be glad to see her, but they are playing the Luke Skywalker waiting game.

If she just heard Yoda's voice, like Kanan in an abandoned Jedi temple or something , ok.

 

This assumes that she actually wants Jedi help at all instead of deciding that you know what, she is doing just fine on her own thanks. She is the one who walked away from the Order, they were practically begging her to come back (because they knew how bad/stupid that whole mess made them look) but she said no. If anything she's likely to go completely her own way and try and find other teachers and learn new things completely.

Yoda can be all "Complete, your training is not. Help you, I can.'' if he wants to, but Ahsoka might very well reply "On it, you can swivel." and go off and actually be heroic rather than chillax in a swamp waiting for a baby to grow up and do the dirty work.

 

Ahsoka has been bringing the fight to the Empire for who knows how long, while Yoda and Obi be chillin in their own failures. She doesn't need to get validation from them.

Since she left the Jedi Order, I am wondering what her 'code' is now, though.

 

It seems pretty obvious in the original movies that Obi-Wan and Yoda were "waiting for Luke to be ready" and leaving The Rebellion to its own devices.

At least, until Artoo arrives on Tatooine with the plans, in ANH.

So, why would Filoni taking that tack, be any different from Lucas doing so?

As it is - Filoni seems, if anything, to be moving away from the "old version" - and showing Yoda contacting Kanan and Ezra, in Path of the Jedi.

 

And it needs to stay that way.

I suspect, Filoni will actually focus on whether or not Bail knows the true identity of Vader (if Leia is to make an appearance in Rebels at a future date); if so, this might make Bail and Ahsoka's relationship very interesting. Does he fully trust Anakin's former padawan?

 

When Filoni succeeds then we will have one time an Ahsoka Tano-force-ghost showing up next to the force-ghosts of Qui-Gon, Obi-Wan and Jedi-Anakin at the end of RotJ, newest altered edition. :lol:

 

In all fairness, Luke didn't know either where Yoda was. It was Obi-Wan's ghost who told him to go to Dagobah.

 

Hopefully now that SW is out of George "Changemeister" Lucas' hands that won't happen. If anybody would be apt to shove an Ahsoka force ghost into the Endor scene (assuming she buys it at some point before Endor, which is by no means certain) it would be him. I think Filoni is actually less likely to do that.

 

The jury is still out on that one, that is right. However I still don't want her to do "Jedi-training" with Yoda as she's not supposed to be a part of the order anymore.

 

We don't know who Ahsoka is now, or what she's learned, or from who. That said, she was always, ALWAYS idealistic to the point of naïve and I can't honestly see her going so far as to bust out the heavy duty Dark Side stuff like lightning (assuming there's anyone to teach her how of course.) But she should have her own code and her own principles instead of following 'the Jedi Way'... but not totally not a Jedi, guys, honest. How this will actually work in action could be interesting but I don't want her to be a Jedi-with-white-lightsabers... I want her to be her own person.

 

I seem to recall it had become common before Star By Star.

 

Yeah, lightning should have been Sidious' personal signature power for me, but that cat left the bag a long time before TCW or Rebels came along in fairness. I simply used it as an example of a 'Dark' power that I don't think Ahsoka should be using. It's not really as simple as 'Jedi' or 'Dark Side', you can be a genuinely heroic and well intentioned person without following the Order's way to the letter. If anything I can see Ahsoka as more of a Qui-Gonn than anything else - she's not a Rebel for political motives, she is motivated by the need to protect innocent people from oppression. She has no interest in politics, or power... only people. Individual and as a whole. At least, if I had any influence at all she would that is!