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CT The Han-Leia Romance. Something I don't understand.

Discussion in 'Classic Trilogy' started by DARTHLINK, Oct 30, 2015.

  1. Iron_lord

    Iron_lord 50x Wacky Wed/3x Two Truths/28x H-man winner star 10 VIP - Game Winner

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    Marvel Star Wars may have dropped a few hints about their growing attraction though.
     
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  2. The_Phantom_Calamari

    The_Phantom_Calamari Force Ghost star 5

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    A New Hope made it pretty clear that Han was developing a bit of a thing for her. And then there's the end where Leia hugs him and says, "I knew there was more to you than money!" and then gives him that ambiguous smile after he winks at her at the awards ceremony.

    And even in that movie their constant bickering with each other came across pretty clearly as sexual tension. It was pretty clear even from the start that a love triangle was in the offing. I'm sure Marvel picked up on that.
     
  3. Sarge

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    Still, she's got a lot of spunk to go with her sass. Do you think a princess and a guy like me -?
     
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  4. PHIERY

    PHIERY Jedi Master star 2

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    I don't know about Leia and the other Ladies... Han for me is my ideal man, he is packing a huge cocked gun and has big hairy sidekick (Chewie). He also has a nice personality and lovely eyes.
     
  5. TCF-1138

    TCF-1138 Anthology/Fan Films/NSA Mod & Ewok Enthusiast star 6 Staff Member Manager

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    I totally read that wrong at first!
     
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  6. darth-sinister

    darth-sinister Manager Emeritus star 10 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Leia did have feelings for Han at the start of TESB. That's what their argument was about with regards to his leaving.



    Hell, just watch the extended argument between them as well as Leia's anger over Luke and Han leaving, also extended.
     
  7. anakinfansince1983

    anakinfansince1983 Skywalker Saga/LFL/YJCC Manager star 10 Staff Member Manager

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    Yeah, I'd agree with that. She was starting to acknowledge that she cared about him but was keeping it to herself at the moment, either because she had not fully made up her mind, because there was no need for that kind of drama when they were running from the Empire, or both.
     
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  8. KenW

    KenW Jedi Knight star 4

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    Star Wars love just happens.
     
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  9. Prequel_Rubbish

    Prequel_Rubbish Jedi Knight star 3

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    I would say it's pretty clear they both developed feelings for each other sometime between Star Wars and The Empire Strikes Back. They are already hot for each other at the beginning of the movie on Hoth. For all we know they could have hooked up in between films and broken up or just had a fling. Or just that they both enjoyed fighting as flirtation. Either way, they didn't fall for each other during Empire Strikes Back. Rather, the difficult circumstances they were in caused them to soften up to each other and allow their love and feelings to come out.

    That is in contrast to say ... Anakin and Padme. Who just sit around and tell each other "I love you" and "you're so pretty" over and over again. That was written by George Lucas, who has admitted he's not the best screenwriter. Han / Leia was written by Lawrence Kasdan, who is an outstanding screenwriter.
     
  10. sarlaccsaurs-rex

    sarlaccsaurs-rex Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Eh, as flawed as the AOTC romance is, ESB is not much better its one of the most cliched and overdone romance styles seen in film.

    Except rather than a handsome geek and rich girl/tough politician in Shakespearean tragedy, in ESB its handsome jock and rich girl/tough politician in 80s action comedy. ESB's romance has a very cheesy "Patrick Swayze" feel to it idk how to describe it.

    Since I can't find it on Youtube: *insert that one family guy clip of rich girl/poor boy "society won't like it joke"*
     
  11. ObiWanKnowsMe

    ObiWanKnowsMe Jedi Master star 4

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    i never considered han solo to be the jock type for some reason... to me he seemed like an outlaw more than a jock.
     
  12. Slicer87

    Slicer87 Jedi Master star 4

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    Then again, Anakin didn't trap Padme in a remote corner and forced himself on her either like Han did.
     
  13. Chewies_bandolier

    Chewies_bandolier Force Ghost star 4

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    I always thought that Han's act of selflessness at the end of ANH, when he comes back to help the rebels, was the start of Leia's reassessment of his character and her attraction to him. He is an incorrigible flirt and I suspect that between the end of ANH and Hoth, they had something happening (at least a friendship), that got tested when he decided to run off to Jabba. Just to recap: her over-reaction to his leaving (which he very astutely picked up on), was out of keeping with what it would be as a dispassionate (and logical) military leader. Anyway ... in ANH, the triangle between her, Luke and Han was built up and I thoroughly believe that Lucas had not planned for Luke and Leia to be siblings in ESB ...
     
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  14. Shapcah

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    Yeah i though this was weird, imo Anakin/padme is way better and more realistic
     
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  15. anakinfansince1983

    anakinfansince1983 Skywalker Saga/LFL/YJCC Manager star 10 Staff Member Manager

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    Good point. I do think she started reassessing what she thought of him then.

    As far as Anakin and Padme being more realistic or less--I don't know that either relationship was particularly realistic. Han/Leia might feel that way to some because there was more of a build-up. One common complaint about Anakin/Padme is that it happened very quickly.
     
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  16. Shapcah

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    That makes no sense, Anakin and Padme took atleast 10 years?
     
  17. Iron_lord

    Iron_lord 50x Wacky Wed/3x Two Truths/28x H-man winner star 10 VIP - Game Winner

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    Padme hasn't seen him at all throughout those 10 years though.
     
  18. anakinfansince1983

    anakinfansince1983 Skywalker Saga/LFL/YJCC Manager star 10 Staff Member Manager

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    I don't consider anything that happened in TPM "romance" or anything that happened in the intervening ten years "romantic buildup", unless Disney does something new with the TPM-AOTC gap, which it very well might.
     
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  19. Shapcah

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    no, but Anakin clear has been thinking about her :) Maybe they will make a tv series going on the the TPM-AOTC gab, would be awesome :)
     
  20. darth-sinister

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    Indeed. But as it turned out, Lucas and Kershner wound up cutting all those scenes from the film and thus made it easy to do that retcon.

    That would entail changing AOTC to remove all references to not seeing each other in ten years.
     
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  21. anakinfansince1983

    anakinfansince1983 Skywalker Saga/LFL/YJCC Manager star 10 Staff Member Manager

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    I was thinking along the lines of their exchanging whatever the GFFA version of e-mails or IM messages. Then that line could stay, but they've still communicated and gotten to know each other in virtual space.
     
  22. darth-sinister

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    Still doesn't fit given that she's impressed with how much he had grown up, when she's packing her things and he starts talking about things. Right before he vents his frustrations about his training. That would come across in messages.
     
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  23. Yanksfan

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    I always assumed they kinda fell for each other between movies. Like, Han was attracted to her right off the bat, for sure, but he didn't "fall" for her until sometime between ANH and ESB. Same goes for Leia. ESB was just about them coming to terms and admitting it.

    And I loved them together. I really hope those two kids are still going strong in TFA.
     
  24. Slicer87

    Slicer87 Jedi Master star 4

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    Not really. Both TCW and Rebels did lots of things against what the film presents without altering the films themselves. If Disney wants to make a series about Anakin and Padme between TPM and AOTC, they will without regard to film continuity as Rebels already doesn't have regard to meshing 100% with the films.
     
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  25. Dagobahsystem

    Dagobahsystem Chosen One star 10

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    I think Leia came to that realization when Vader was about to place Han in the freezing chamber on Bespin.
    Shadows of the Empire states this on p. 21: "Leia sighed. She hadn't really known until that moment that she loved him."
    Not canon, I know, but the concept that the moments leading up to Han's potential demise spurred Leia to recognize and acknowledge her true feelings is a universal archetype explored by Steve Perry in his novel.
    Seems plausible and effective. It is recognizing the importance of someone when you might lose them.
     
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