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PT Rewriting the Prequels...

Discussion in 'Prequel Trilogy' started by swrescripted, Jan 23, 2013.

  1. CIS Droid

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    That´s true. It would be unfair to compare the animated shows though. The battledroids have killed a lot of people on screen and the stormtroopers havent killed anyone yet.
     
  2. TuskenTourniquet

    TuskenTourniquet Jedi Knight star 1

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    The difference is ANH has Vader throughout, Tusken Raiders, Tarken, etc. ESB has Vader, AT ATs, snow troopers, Boba Fett etc. ROTJ has Jabba the Hutt, Vader, the Emperor, etc.

    In short, OT has tons of great villains who are threatening throughout the films. Sure the stormtroopers are mostly throw-away, but there are plenty of other villains and antagonists to compensate. On the other hand, PM has 6 minutes of Darth Maul and... a bunch of droids who never even give the semblance of putting up a fight.
     
  3. -NaTaLie-

    -NaTaLie- Force Ghost star 4

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    Vader was in ANH for 12 minutes tops. I don't know how much screen time Maul had but I'm sure it's more than 6. Probably close to Vader. The droids can cause a lot of damage, even TPM shows that. I suppose TPM could use another villain but it already has Sidious, Trade Federation, Maul, and the potential threat of Jabba. In the prequels, the true villain is Palpatine but his public persona is of a benevolent fatherly politician so he can only be sinister with his true identity.
     
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  4. CIS Droid

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    The droideka's. Why do you ignore the droideka's? Also, a bit unfair to compare one trilogy to one movie.
     
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  5. WriterMan

    WriterMan Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    I'm not sure I understand why any of the henchmen are supposed to be threatening. Looking scary is really all they can do, because if our heroes were taken down by the common henchmen and soldiers, then our heroes would be pretty pathetic. The main goal should be to have threatening primary antagonists like Maul, Dooku, Grievous, Palpatine, Tarkin, the Fetts, and Vader.

    I think they're pretty threatening. Grievous and Dooku I care a little less for, but those are all solid.
     
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  6. Deliveranze

    Deliveranze Force Ghost star 6

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    I wouldn't change anything but IF YOU REALLYY HAVE TO REWRITE THEM....be more creative. I find rewrites to be interesting but go crazy with it. A lot of the rewrites are so half assed and the same. For the Clone Wars, it's always the same villains. Evil clones or Mandalorians. Jeez that gets boring after awhile. Why not make clones neutral....like sure, they can be slaves or something but have the Republic try to free clones instead. Maybe have a proto rebel alliance that starts off aa a terrorist group to the Republic but by the Empires rise, make their ideals shift....ya know? Like I said, I love them the way they are but if others are going to do something different......DO SOMETHING DIFFERENT.
     
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  7. Deliveranze

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    EDIT: My apologies. Accidentally double posted and quoted my own post.
     
  8. CIS Droid

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    And they always remove the battledroids.
     
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  9. Deliveranze

    Deliveranze Force Ghost star 6

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    Lol. Well, maybe battle droids aren't so important to some but if I ever do something like this, I promise to put some in there for you. :D
     
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  10. Strongbow

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    There were those rebel
    troopers at the beginning of ANH.

    And Owen and Beru, and lots of Jawas. And Ewoks.... And maybe some rebele commandos?
     
  11. CIS Droid

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    Thanks :)
     
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  12. CIS Droid

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    But those were in the movies, not star wars rebels :)
     
  13. Canyon D

    Canyon D Jedi Knight star 4

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    So I have started my own episode I rewrite. I have a question, do you think Maul was a good villain and should he use a double bladed lightsaber?


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  14. darklordoftech

    darklordoftech Force Ghost star 6

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    In TPM, show Anakin constructing the saber that Luke uses in ANH and ESB. I like the idea of that saber connecting the trilogies.
    I liked that Maul had a saberstaff, but I think that Maul, Ventress, and Grevious should have been one character. I think Maul should have been Obi-Wan's archnemesis throughout the prequels and Dooku Anakin's.
     
  15. Canyon D

    Canyon D Jedi Knight star 4

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    So you liked Dooku as a Sith? As of now I have him as the General of the enemy but he is not force sensative


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  16. darklordoftech

    darklordoftech Force Ghost star 6

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    Yeah. I liked his Dracula-esque mannerisms and how he's manipulated by Palpatine.
     
  17. DurararaFTW

    DurararaFTW Jedi Master star 4

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    I prefer Maul getting killed by Anakin at the start of Episode III and Obi-Wan going after Dooku. With Dooku being manipulated by the Palpatine unknowingly but on the surface believing his Seperatist/fighting against Republic corruption stuff.
     
  18. Canyon D

    Canyon D Jedi Knight star 4

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    I guess I would need a baddie for II if I do it, I love most of the exciting prequel characters, just not how the stories themselves went. I have Qui-Gon as Anakins cousin and his death in Episode I is what makes Anakin join the Jedi Order


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  19. darklordoftech

    darklordoftech Force Ghost star 6

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    With the exception of Qui-Gon, I think that all the Jedi who had green sabers should have had blue sabers.
     
  20. darklordoftech

    darklordoftech Force Ghost star 6

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    Sometimes I wonder what the prequels would be like if ESB and ROTJ hadn't revealed Vader and Anakin to be the same person.
    "I'm a person, and my name's Darth." "And you, young Vader, we'll watch your career with great interest." "Take a seat, young Vader." I wonder which one Hayden would be.
     
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  21. TuskenTourniquet

    TuskenTourniquet Jedi Knight star 1

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    No it's not. I'm saying each one is induvidually better with regards to villians than PM. Heck, PM has a great villian, but due to incompetancy in script and direction, we don't see him enough.
     
  22. darkspine10

    darkspine10 Chosen One star 8

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    You ignore Sidious and the Neimoidians, who turn up throughout the film. They may not directly harm anyone, but they lead to most of the plot taking place.

    And I can't see how giving Maul more screen time would work. He's meant to be silent and deadly, clinging to the shadows. Focusing on him more would reduce his effectiveness.
     
  23. TuskenTourniquet

    TuskenTourniquet Jedi Knight star 1

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    Nemoidians are 1-star villians. Cowering and spineless. Sideous shows up for like 5 seconds.

    More broadly, one of the greatest failures of the PT was the failure to develop villians we care about. Grevious and/or Dooku should have been developed from episode 1 onward OR Maul should have lived and been developed.
     
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  24. darkspine10

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    You mean like Tarkin who dies in the first one, or Boba who's introduced in the second near the end, then is killed off quickly at the start of the third? What does that remind me of?

    Oh yeah, Maul and Dooku.

    And Sidious is all throughout the Phantom Menace. But not in an in your face way. Like he was in the originals as well.

    You seem to want to separate the Originals and the Prequels, when they're really not as different as you want to make out.
     
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  25. -NaTaLie-

    -NaTaLie- Force Ghost star 4

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    The main villain in the PT is Sidious/Palpatine. I think he's developed well enough (if we take into account both of his personas). Everyone else is a henchman of various degree of importance. I think Jango is more interesting than Boba (thanks to Temuera).
     
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