ST The relationship between Finn and Rey. SEE FIRST POST WARNING

^ So these were the (rumoured) final five Finns?

http://variety.com/2014/film/news/star-wars-4-1201125355/

Ed Speleers John Boyega Jesse Plemons Matthew James Thomas Ray Fisher




yep.

Friendzoned for the entire trilogy. (sarcasm intended)

Very glad with John - amazing chemistry with Daisy. They totally sold me on their love for each other (whatever that will grow to be).

EDIT: And after posting this, I realised that I could now never see anyone else as Finn other than John.

 

God damn it Nanosoft and Chewies_bandolier just opened my eyes... Does the whole "I'm not seeing a Rey/Finn thing" exists because people think Finn is not on the same level as Rey?!

People... THAT'S NOT HOW THE FORCE WORKS!

 

If he played goofy Finn, as comic relief sidekick, perhaps some people would also have the same problem in perceiving him as a potential love interest.

It's not necessarily about the actor, but the character.

Compare these pictures:

 

The right one looks like a stormtrooper who doesn't want to be a stormtrooper anymore... Did you prefer he was fresh out the barber and had a silk shirt?

 

Sorry but though Finn has some funny one-liners, I did not see him as either "goofy" or as "comic relief", so we obviously disagree on that point.

 

I mean Ed Speelers or whoever else they cast would not look as good as the pictures posted, and would play a character that is not your usual romantic lead, which would perhaps lead people not to see anything going between him and the female protagonist.

It's easy to post a picture of a good looking male actor (although I personally don't like Ed Speelers looks, but whatever) and claim that people would be going crazy. Well, John Boyega looks good in that picture as well, but that doesn't reflect his character in TFA.

Don't get me wrong, anyone, I think Finn and Rey is cute, and they like each other, even if, by any chance, it's just as friends.
I just think that some people insist that viewers either see them as a romantic pairing or else they are racist. Well, that's not the case. I think they are being set up as a romantic pair, but I can see why not everyone sees the same.

 

^ I think that as the characters are written (now that we have the script and the directions), Finn and Rey are set up to be more than just friends. Then again, that is my impression, just as I (unlike evidently some other people) simply cannot see the obvious romantic relationship between other characters, such as say, Rey and Kylo - (note: NOT Ben Solo ... but Kylo Ren).

My point was that based on the writing, were the casting different with a more conventionally looking actor opposite Daisy, some people would again read the chemistry between the two leads, differently.

It would be unfair of me to generalise everyone who does not see Rey and Finn as having a romantic relationship or a very intense relationship, as racist, though I do feel that some people would be find a more "conventional" (for the sake of it) casting, based on probably their own life and experiences of living, acceptable and would be more receptive to the ship.

I think I will stop there and leave with this: ... is it wrong of me to crave that Poe jacket btw?

 

You're welcome!

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At this point, I also can imagine Rey might be more into Finn than Finn is into Rey, if that can be believed. Rey had barriers up and I think Finn broke through them. If Finn abandoned her in some way now, I can imagine Rey totally losing it.

 

Maybe. Had Finn been drop dead gorgeous, the reaction would have been different. Well, perhaps they wouldn't even need to interact. (Rey and Poe anyone?) I guess I agree with what you're saying. It's just that sometimes it seems to be about skin colour, when there are a bunch of other factors involved.

It is interesting that none of the finalists are conventionally good looking, though. I think they wanted a relatable, regular looking dude for the role.
But then you have Rey, who's just awesome at everything and good looking (yes, she doesn't look as good as Daisy Ridley, but still...)

 

I get your point (and I am reminded of Hayden Christensen and Natalie Portman, who, if anything, were blessed with amazing genes, but still couldn't' really sell me their story) - for whatever it's worth, I think that the actors above did all fit the bill of being "young and handsome" - maybe not in the league of professional models, but certainly, not plain looking by any means.

EDIT: I thought Rey looked amazing in the character poster - must be the freckles

 

Actually, from reading reviews, posts, and watching Youtube video reviews and such, it seems that a lot of people do see FinnRey and think there's a brewing romance. However, there are definitely a good number of people who don't. But I'm pretty sure you'd get that regardless of anything unless the movie explicitly spelled it out... and it didn't. All it did was lay a foundation for a romance. The full blown romance wasn't there. Some people won't recognize FinnRey as a romance until it is a fully realized romance. I get that.

I can guarantee that more people see FinnRey than Rey/Kylo. I just think that Rey/Kylo may have more fanatical and louder people behind it, But that ship is ridiculed far more than FinnRey, from what I've seen, because at least FinnRey makes sense to your average watcher and they quite possibly see the cues themselves. I think Rey/Kylo only makes sense to the extreme people who ship Rey/Kylo.

And as for Stormpilot... as mentioned, that's just an internet meme. I don't even think that's meant to be taken seriously at all.

 

A lot of people are saying that Finn did all the pining, but I kinda saw it the way you did.

Finn is *maybe* slighty clingy, Rey on the other hand has clear abandonment issues....

For the most part though, I took it as pretty obvious that this was meant to be the story of two orphans, neither of which who knew where they came from, who grow closer to one another as the movie progresses.

A clingy orphan, who can easily attach himself to nearly anyone he crosses paths with, and a distrusting orphan, that won't let anyone in because she's afraid she'll be abandoned again...put them together and...that really IS like Poetry, and I'm not being sarcastic with that.

 

Finn already abandoned her once, and it was devastating to her. It's why she wanted to run from her destiny. Finn definitely broke through her barriers.

 

Get used to it!

 

What's your problem?

Used to what? I've written that I think John Boyega looks good, I also think Daisy Ridley looks better than Rey, and that I think Finn and Rey are a romantic pairing. Whether John and Daisy are friends or not or whatever else in real life or whether they have cute pictures together has no effect on Finn and Rey as characters.

I think I've written some 6 to 10 times already that Rey and Finn are cute and that they are probably the end game couple.

What's your problem? Get used to what?

Finally, I think you're putting it on the racist angle, using get used to it.

Let me clarify that I don't live in the USA, where people seem to have a problem with it, and I am both black and white (Or black, in the USA, or whatever, I don't even know how they classify these things). So duh. Any implication of racism is dumb and unfounded.

 

Hey guys, longtime lurker.

Just wanna say, after watching the movie for the fourth time today. It really does seem to me Finn likes Rey(In the Movie) and at the end she comes to view Finn as a "Dear Friend".
But..

After reading the script Disney released, and some Novel quotes. It also seems to be hinting at a "More then Friends" relationship feelings.

So my thing is why would they Cut/Not portray these things, like the "Why are we starting at each other?" scene?

It would give a somewhat clearer picture to the audience on just how both are starting to really feel about each other.

Finally whats the deal with all the Media picking up on the Finn/Poe thing? and not Finn/Rey?

 

Most of the critics/media definitely picked up on Boyega/Ridley chemistry

As for Finn/Poe is just a funny meme.
Gay ships are really really popular on the internet, even if the movie never hinted anything romantic. It's just a thing internet does a lot: Steve/Bucky, Steve/Tony, Bruce/Clark, the angel from supernatural/Dean, etc ...

 

I apologize, in retrospect that was way too combative.

I'm just protective over the ship.

It's just that you see a lot of "no way could they be together" and "they don't look like a couple" (Someone earlier in this thread said this very thing). So when I saw you posting pictures as evidence that one character isn't desirable for some reason, I got frustrated, and wanted to reiterate that these two click together and, frankly, look good together.That particular image you posted has kinda taken on it's own importance in the fandom, because it was highly...contentious...when people saw that in the first teaser.

 

They definitely have a bromance going on! I would be absolutely fine with a gay relationship between the two, but I think it's highly unlikely.

 

Oh yeah I didn't say anything against their bromance.It's there and I love it.
But the 70% of the movie was about Rey/Finn and hinted several times that they like each other romantically. It's canon and shown in every mediums of the movies : book, script. So yeah, I'm sure the Poe/Finn was never meant to take seriously, not because a gay relationship wouldn't be nice, just because it was not written. It's was the internet calls a "crack ship".

 

Ahhh..I see. I noticed the Steve/Bucky thing also. Its weird lol.

But dont get me wrong. If by some chance Disney decides to do a Gay relationship in SW ok. I wouldnt be mad just disappointed. Because like most here I would like to see the Finn/Rey outcome.

Mainly because it doesn't seem right for Disney to ignore how strong Boyega and Ridley Chem is, And "Truthfully" I wanna see the Black guy get the White girl and piss off the Racist and People who are uncomfortable with interacial relationships"

 

"Mystery Box"

It's clear at this point that JJ purposefully directed this movie with a TON of ambiguity. He wanted mystery, guessing, and theorizing. It's why there *just might* be a chance that Finn is FS. It's why we don't know who Rey's parents were or what her background truly is. And I think it's why we've got this "will they or won't they" discussion.

Why give everything away in the first movie, when you can drag things out a bit and keep the fandom crazy for more?

Keep in mind, we are getting the three films (And, likely more beyond that, although they haven't been announced as of yet). They have a lot of time to cement this relationship, and will probably wait till Episode 9.

In regards to Finn/Poe, I talked about this a page or two back. It's a combination of a lot of things. Optimistically, some just liked their relationship and want to see a gay couple. Pessimistically...a lot of people are going through some cognitive dissonance right now about what relationship was actually important in the movie.

 

Since when is a character being funny seen as evidence that he's not a romantic lead? See: Han (among countless romcoms and action movie romantic leads).

If anything, I'd say being funny makes a character more likely to get the girl. Women like personality. Finn is charming and charismatic, humanly flawed with some superb qualities. In fact, in most ways, Finn is a superior man than Han. Han was a greedy, lifelong criminal before he met Leia. He didn't start out chivalrous with a moral code like Finn, despite Finn's lifetime of brainwashing to be evil.

Even Poe, the super hot Gary Stu of the flick (seriously, the guy is smokin) is funny, and he's barely in the movie to develop a personality. He's funny in he stereotypical, alpha-male cocky kind of way. Which, you know, is another example of the funny guy being a romantic character.

Finn to me almost has the stereotype personality of a romantic lead. He also happens to be played by an incredibly charming actor. I fully expect that we will get Finn/Rey, and if love to see it, but in the off chance it doesn't happen, Finn will be romancing someone in this trilogy. I consider it essentially set in stone.

 

Like I've said before, he's more of a Peeta type.

 

Well lol I don't consider him a Peeta type. I didn't care about Peeta one way or the other personally, and I love Finn. I didn't see Peeta as funny or charming. More like... There.